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My Dungeon Master has made his own story and he asked how it was. I criticized him about his story only being interesting for one character (that has a massive amount of backstory and was made with the DM). I complained about it not being interesting for the other parties. Right now for the story guy, his turn lasts 30 to 45 minutes (I timed it) while the rest of us get cut off at after 5 to 10 minutes.

His response was to rage at me for “having a shitty character” and getting on his nerves.

He also rewards for kinda being a slave to his story. When I try to branch out from his story I get cut of almost immediately, or says I have a small chance to do something and he cuts me off from doing it when I roll low.

(This is just how I see it though; he seems to think he is almost perfect.)

I'm new to D&D so I don't really know how this is supposed to work. Is it the Dungeon Master's job to keep the story interesting for other players, or is it the player's task to write a massive backstory to fit in?

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    – eimyr
    Nov 27, 2015 at 15:52
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    \$\begingroup\$ Is the story guy's turns actually 30 minutes or are you exaggerating? A single player's turn should rarely last more than 5 or 10 minutes depending on the interaction. Also, are you actually wondering about what the GM's job is or are you fishing for advice? It seems like you're asking one thing but expecting another question to be answered. \$\endgroup\$ Nov 27, 2015 at 20:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ i'm not overexaturating on the 30 min time scope I clocked It, and i'm wondering if its just me being bad ad dnd or that the gm needs to change. and i'm trying to learn a lot of the game \$\endgroup\$
    – Thomcdrom
    Nov 27, 2015 at 21:05
  • \$\begingroup\$ No problem, some times people exaggerate when they're upset. I'm just making sure it's factual because it seems rather long. We usually like to stick to 1 question per post, so I've removed the 2nd question about the turn length. However, I felt it was relevant to your question and circumstances, so I moved the bit about turn lengths to the other paragraph. \$\endgroup\$ Nov 27, 2015 at 21:22
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm not writing this out of anger, i'm new to dnd and so is the GM. I know him in real life and know him for a long time for the peept that think he is just a randon guy. I wanted to make the experience better for me and my other team mates. so far they get there wisdom form wachting youtube video's from 1 content creator. We also have the stater kit story whitch I find good but the other guys find it repetitive. \$\endgroup\$
    – Thomcdrom
    Nov 28, 2015 at 8:37

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It's everyone's job

Long story short, being entertained at a table is a shared responsibility. GM should welcome all players and create opportunities for the entire group and it's also up to the players to take advantage of these opportunities. Making an interesting character helps. Having your players create characters that fit the story helps even more. Doing the character creation together is strongly encouraged in many games. Not just the characters contribute to an interesting game. In play the GM should give player's many opportunities to do something engaging, develop their characters and have fun. It's up to the players to take those opportunities and use them further.

While you are not required to have a backstory, it is very useful to the GM. I've often used the rule of 6: every player needs at least 6 sentences of backstory, 6 paragraphs are recommended, but 6 pages is too long. I would recommend that you have some backstory that the GM can use, it's good for your own roleplaying as well. GM should accommodate for everyone present at the table, though, regardless of their backstory status. However, in your case the backstory problem is secondary to other underlying issues.

If one player gets much more attention thanhis peers, the group has a problem

It is true that some characters are easier to "hook" than others, but little backstory should never be used as an excuse to ignore one player. The fault is never equally on one side of the table, but what you said points to a case of GM favouring one player above others and taking over the play. As you said, that player made his character with the GM (while others I assume did not have that opportunity), is being given extra time and attention and gets to do much more than the rest has opportunity to.

This question has some excellent answers on how to deal with such a situation.

I suggest you leave the group at this point.

There is little that can be done to fix it if your GM is unwilling to listen and cooperate. To make the case clear:

  1. A GM that rages because you have a shitty character is a shitty GM. A good GM would help you create a better character if that is indeed the case.

  2. A GM that railroads and prevents players from branching out does not understand player agency. GMing is not playing with dolls. A good GM recognises that the most important feature for a player is freedom of choice.

  3. A GM that is deaf to his player's feedback is doomed to fail. A good GM understands the symbiosis between himself and the players and listens to players carefully.

  4. Actually, any person that asks for critique and then rages is hardly worth having around. It's fishing for compliments, not actual discussion.

You GM is not beyond redemption, but he will have to rethink the way he runs the game very carefully.

You may want to try and help him become a decent GM. I personally wouldn't. If you still would like to play with this group, you can offer to GM yourself or if the GM wants to listen point him to some good GMing for Beginners tips. You can also point him to this page.

Regarding round length

Note that sometimes a group has a Party Face, a character that acts as the main speaker and communicates party's intention to the NPCs. Many groups take turns doing the talking, but some prefer to have one character be the go-to talker. If you're uncomfortable with it, you need to communicate to the other players. In either case, turns should be shared, meaning that anyone can speak if they are a part of the discussion.

However, in combat, the turns should be as long as appropriate - there is no prescribed time that you need to fit to your turn. It's sometimes necessary for some turns to be longer (a cleric performing a complex multi-attack routine while activating magic items and casting quickened spells) and some shorter (I hit him with my sword!). However, in the long run everyone should get the same amount of **spotlight* and feel contributing and appreciated. That means that while the cleric takes more time describing what he does, the GM would devote more attention to the fighter, describing the effects of his actions in detail.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Okey, yea the sorry right now is not realy dnd like I find(but i'm a total noob) we only have 3 events, baracs , arena and a shopping stage. It also involes time travel so we lost all our items. me the player player can stealing working or mumbeling about. i'm neutreal lawfull so I rather not steal. I also get stabes by the DM a lot, i'm also a dragonbord with a guild spirit. that is where my background is base on. so should I change my charactersheet or talk to the DM or adapting the story (i'm battelcenterd). What do you think? \$\endgroup\$
    – Thomcdrom
    Nov 27, 2015 at 18:32
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    \$\begingroup\$ This answer would be better without the paragraph beginning with "Unfortunately" and ends with "anything you do will fail." The rest of the answer is pretty decent, but that part is utterly without value. You are making a subjective judgment on someone you have never met. (Your guess may be right, but that statement is going overboard). \$\endgroup\$ Nov 27, 2015 at 23:03
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    \$\begingroup\$ The purpose of this paragraph is to serve as a disclaimer. I do not know the person therefore I'm assuming it's possible that the advice from the answer will fail due to things outside of asker's control. Saying "Run" outright seems like a much harsher subjective judgment. I only know as much as the asker presented, but so far I believe there is a strong indication that GM is unwilling to cooperate and as the asker is a beginner, some warning could be helpful. \$\endgroup\$
    – eimyr
    Nov 27, 2015 at 23:09
  • \$\begingroup\$ I downvoted, largely due to the general tone and specifically due to the paragraph @KorvinStarmast pointed out. This doesn't seem constructive. \$\endgroup\$
    – DCShannon
    Dec 1, 2015 at 0:14
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    \$\begingroup\$ Two downvotes is enough to make me reconsider, but I stand by the answer's general message (run, and I don't think it can be fixed). \$\endgroup\$
    – eimyr
    Dec 1, 2015 at 22:48
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It's everyone's job to make the game interesting.

@eimyr posted a great answer, but I'd stress that it's not just the GM's job to keep/make a game interesting. A game a is contract between all people sitting at the table. If anyone isn't there to have fun, then they shouldn't be there. And as pointed out in the comments, the best way to establish what everyone wants to get out of the game is via communication. Everyone needs to say what they expect to get out of the game. Of course communication is a two way street and if people aren't listening, then it may be time to find a new group to play with.

Yes, it is certainly the GM's role to provide a fun environment to play in, and for that, I'll defer to the above mentioned post. A bad GM will make for a bad experience.

But it's also quite possible for a player to tank a game and bring it down for everyone. I've seen players be so inflexible with what they want that they become toxic for the entire game. If that's the case, then maybe they are sitting at the wrong table and need to find a GM more suited to their needs.

It sounds to me like your GM isn't taking your needs into account, but I think the answer to your specific question is simply that it's everyone's job to make it fun.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks @PremierBromanov . Excellent point. Will amend me answer now :) \$\endgroup\$ Dec 2, 2015 at 21:38

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