In DnD 4e, I wield a Glaive with Heavy Blade Opportunity and Polearm Gamble.
If my defender ally slides an enemy adjacent to me on his turn, can I use an at-will attack power on the enemy?
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In DnD 4e, I wield a Glaive with Heavy Blade Opportunity and Polearm Gamble. If my defender ally slides an enemy adjacent to me on his turn, can I use an at-will attack power on the enemy? |
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Maybe Argument for yes:
It does not, like other powers, indicate "on their turn." Furthermore, the natural impossibility of taking opportunity actions on your own turn prevents this power from triggering from your own forced movement. Furthermore, the enemy must be non-adjacent on the move (defined as leaving 1 square for another, not the move total), so if the enemy starts adjacent to you, a slide of 2 squares is necessary for Polearm gamble to trigger. Argument for No:
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YesAs Brian states, it's in the rules for Polearm gamble, and forced movement OA's are only forbidden for movement away from the attacker. In this case the specific ruling outweighs the general. The more important thing however is that two PCs have come up with a strategy that works using teamwork, which is something that should always be encouraged. If it proves too powerful it shouldn't be nerfed by the rules, but by the enemy wising up and being more tactical themselves. |
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NoAs Brian states, this is not 100% cut and dried. However I believe we can reason our way to the likely true answer. The Rules Compendium, page 29 gives us Two Principles to Keep in Mind and number 1 is Specific Beats General. Therefore it would be easy to stop there and decide that Polearm Gamble is clearly allowing an exception to the general rule of No OA's during forced movement, but I don't believe that is the case. Polearm Gamble is clearly allowing an exception, but what exception is that?
If the wizards team had wanted to make Polearm Gamble a strong feat they could have just said it granted Threatening Reach 2 (or perhaps +1 your normal reach). But they don't, clearly they wanted to limit it to something less. You aren't allowed
Looking at all of that, I find it hard to believe that it was meant to allow you to take OA's against shifting and creatures undergoing forced movement. Any other power that allows OA's against shifting creatures specifically says so. Polearm Gamble reads like a power that was meant to be less than threatening reach, not more. |
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No Polearm Gamble could be expanded into a power card that would look like this: Opportunity Action Rules Compendium p.200 states:
Rules Compendium p.212 states:
In this case, Polearm Gamble's trigger condition is based on the keyword "enter", which is defined as a type of movement. This means that the No OA rule applies, because the Polearm Gamble OA is triggered by movement. With that in mind, Pureferret does make a valid point that players have come up with an interesting teamwork strategy; the DM should certainly consider allowing the opportunity attack as a house rule if it makes the game more fun for everyone involved. |
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Yes D&D is based on broad rules, with many exceptions. Polearm Gamble uses deliberate arduous wording depicting that any enemy not adjacent who enters, not moves, into a square adjacent draws an OA. DMs can houserule it not to if they wish. But as written, OAs are granted. |
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