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I created a setting with my friends and players and we are all familiar with it. We created legends and previous characters are now gods of the current age in the game. I decided that my next game will be using Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd edition because the system provide tools for roleplay where the system we previously used don't.

The problem is that the game is closely tied to its setting. The dice show the twin-tailed comet of Sigmar and the spells are related to the specific gods and winds of magic.

I like the winds of magic and I'm considering including them in my own setting. The special symbols on the dice is not a problem either: I can just assume they represent luck and misfortune, etc. But there's a lot that worries me about using a different setting. The races of my setting need to be created (like Warforged, Eladrin, Halfling) and some don't fit with the low magic of Warhammer. The absence of magic item is also a problem.

I understand the tone and the grim part of the system and I'll keep it because I love it. But I want my own setting. Can I do it and how easy is it?

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What was the previous system? –  javafueled Oct 15 '12 at 23:33
Pathfinder. I didn't want to say it because people usually asked me what's wrong with it. –  MrJinPengyou Oct 15 '12 at 23:38
Honestly, if you like the "grim-dark" of WFRP, I would choose first or second edition over third. Third is so mechanically tied to the setting, you'll be retro-fitting so much. Whereas, in 1e/2e, adding to and pulling from the setting will be "easier." Plus, 1e/2e cover things like magic items and rituals. Frankly, you'll be happier with 2e as all of the source material is available as PDF and Print-on-Demand. Here's the DriveThru RPG WFRP 2e Catalog. –  javafueled Oct 15 '12 at 23:57
We're at our limit of recommendations to do things other than what the question asks, let's now restrict ourselves to answering the question please. –  mxyzplk Oct 16 '12 at 3:11
What if you allow this to be a third (fourth? fifth?) age, and allow the reduction of magic to be part of the story? Maybe something happened that caused the world to fall into a 'low magic' kind of world. –  corsiKa Oct 16 '12 at 13:10
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You can.

It isn't going to be very easy. The difficulty that you are going to face is that WFRP doesn't align well with D&D/Pathfinder.

Some bits are going to be easier than others. Magic Items and Spells are going to be a lot easier than Races and Adversaries.

Magic Items

There are a few ways to consider magic items beyond the existing +1 fortune dice. These include making magic items a narrative source of advances and using magic items as free boosts.

To make items a source of advances, players buy an advance that is represented by a magic item. For instance, a piece of armor could give you the +1 Toughness advance that only worked while the armor was worn. For characteristics, this might be worth a 1xp discount. Of course, these items need would need Plot Immunity or you would have to give a refund if they were ever lost/stolen.

The other way to do it is to put advances into items and allow people to use them. Talents and action cards make sense here. This won't ramp the power level too much (lots of choice can be a negative since you have a limit of the talents and cards you can use at any time). If you were to allow these items to boost characteristic, they should add to the characteristic fortune pool instead.


Look at the Rank structure of the spells. You could possibly increase the ability of wizards and priests to buy higher ranked spells without the extra cost.

Also, if you set Equilibrium at double willpower and max at quadruple willpower, that would allow a lot more high power spells to go off. Whether you really want that to happen is up to you of course.


You are going to need to do a lot of work here. Beyond the attribute modifiers (which will be easy since they are basically the same as D&D) you've got to pick special features. Looking at what exists, most of the racial distinctions come from the allowed careers and the special mechanics of the action cards that they use.

This is going to be a lot of work for all the allowable Pathfinder races.


This is one I've not got much experience of. But you should be able to reskin most of the monsters out of the book to do similar things. Just remember to warn your players that Orcs are a bit tougher than they expect!

Other Advice

All that said, you should use WFRP3E to play in the Warhammer world. I do and it is a lot of fun. You should certainly play a Warhammer based game, before you start making changes, to get a better idea of how the rules as written work. They are not the easiest things to learn because they are scattered across so many books.

If you want to roleplay in a D&D style fantasy world, you would be much better off investing in Legends of Anglerre by Cubicle 7, especially if you haven't bought every last piece of WFRP. Doing this will save you weeks of work. You will also have a system that won't break when players pick two things that don't interact the way you expected them to.

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When you speak in the language of WFRP 3e, I suddenly realized how much it is not WFRP. I quite literally have no idea what you are talking about. :) I'm reminded of What we say to dogs by Gary Larson, only instead I see words like "Toughness" but everything else is "blah blah blah blah" ... what has FFG done to WFRP? My God, it sounds just awful. –  javafueled Oct 17 '12 at 2:00
+1 BTW. Great Answer. I just don't know if 3e is a board game or an RPG, based on the noted mechanics. –  javafueled Oct 17 '12 at 2:06
@javafueled it's an RPG but with a big part of the rules printed on cards. I love it personally. I also understand the question because I asked it myself before playing it. –  MrJinPengyou Oct 17 '12 at 20:21
@javafueled it's a 6 attribute, 12 skill, 9 basic maneuvers, 1-5 additional maneuvers by career, dice pool system. It's actually quite good, but very different in approach from WFRP 1E/2E. It plays fast, and does do the grimdark well... but the limited magic in the base box is an issue. Tasks are rolled on Att+Skill dice, count the successes. –  aramis Oct 19 '12 at 7:16
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