I am looking for a Roguelike tabletop RPG to play with some friends. We really love RPG's we love the Concept of D&D (talk-gaming) but we just dwell into a lot of silliness due to not having a good DM (you know Dwarfs getting drunk, Elves stealing flowers from gardens those kinds of things).
What we do are love Action RPGs on the PC (Diablo (not 3), Baldur's Gate, Titan Quest). Also we've played quite a lot of Magic: The Gathering due to the battle (solid rules component). Recently we have started with Dungeons & Dragons Miniatures. And it's fun, but "just a battle".
What we are looking for is a Tabletop RPG that combines these things, A set of rules, a Dungeon, action, miniatures and roguelike-ish elements (Unidentified items, leveling, perma-death, random dungeons/encounters etc)
Also we've bought Legend of Drizt and Dungeonquest. And I myself like aspects of those games, but not the games themselves much. Drizt is missing competition, playing against a 'board' feels pointless. It's not much different than playing against a computer. But nevertheless it feels weird. And Dungeonquest is missing the aspect of playing against each other. In both games I love the dungeon generating.
Anyway, give me a hoot were I can find a game within my genre? (tabletop nethack would just rule)