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I had a character around 2001 that I was working on for a game that fell apart, and while reading through some book I came upon a very high-power ability that allowed a Vampire to disbelieve in something so strongly that it didn't exist for it any more. This could be anything, including doors, which would allow for entry into any room, or blood, which would be less than bright.

I have not been able to find this particular Discipline since, and I would love it if someone can tell me what it is and which sourcebook it's in.

EDIT: After seeing the answer, whether or not this Discipline works on sunlight is up for debate.

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Sounds similar (or perhaps opposite) to chimerstry, but I have not found that power. Do you remember the clan or bloodline of that character? –  Flamma Aug 7 '13 at 8:57
No, unfortunately. I don't remember anything except that I was going to have him disbelieve in sunlight. (And then later to disbelieve in vampires, to see if he vanished into thin air or what.) –  cartomancer Aug 7 '13 at 9:03
Wow, talk about an over powered game breaking ability... –  Sardathrion Aug 7 '13 at 9:59
Vaguely reminds me of the Kiasyd discipline Mytherceria that gives you the power "The Grand Trick" which allows you to be treated as human when it's beneficial, with respect to sunlight and such. –  C. Ross Aug 7 '13 at 12:59
@Sardathrion A level 8 power is always an extremely powerful one. Only a handful of vampires should be able to perform it, and it's generally considered out of players reach. Only the more extremely powerful antagonists should possess them. And in so many years playing Vampire, I never confronted such a powerful foe. –  Flamma Aug 8 '13 at 9:54

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This is a Dementation Advanced Power for 8 dots called Deny. It's from Clanbook Malkavaian (Revised Edition), pg. 64. (Info courtesy of the World of Darkness Wiki.) It would definitely work against stakes, but doesn't extend to sunlight.

The Malkavian using Deny is able to focus away from a certain object so completely that the object ceases to exist in the Malkavian's perception... The Malkavian may step through a door that he "doesn't see" as if it were an archway; a sword that he refuses to acknowledge will fail to cut him, passing right through his body...This power cannot be used to "deny" the existence of living creatures, undead or spirits; it works only on inanimate objects.

The aura of "noninterference" doesn't extend further than anything the Malkavian is holding...The Malkavian cannot help other vampires or living beings to tune out the ignored object, even if touching them; the power only benefits the Malkavian and his personal effects...

(Thanks to Flamma for the quotes!)

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Oh, good catch! I didn't know that power. Can I give you the discipline text to be included in your answer, or is it better not to include literal manual text? –  Flamma Aug 7 '13 at 16:10
Anyway, reading it, I don't think sunlight could be so easily denied. Stakes and doors, sure. –  Flamma Aug 7 '13 at 16:11
Should I edit the question to exclude sunlight, as it turns out that I was confused? –  cartomancer Aug 7 '13 at 21:23
@cartomancer I think it's better to correct it in the answer. –  Flamma Aug 8 '13 at 9:29
From the quoted text, I do not see why sunlight is not deniable. –  Colin D Aug 8 '13 at 15:07

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