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I've read the entry in the MM for the Half-Celestial template. It applies to a non-evil creature and the creature becomes "always good". What does this phrase mean? What happens with a half-celestial character that tends to neutrality or commits evil deeds?

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"Always" isn't precisely the right term

A creature that is "always" a certain alignment is only that alignment about 95% of the time, with the other 5% being composed of various exceptions such as those created by spells, an inclination to a different alignment, corruption, redemption, or just plain cussedness.

Alignment is contradictory

Though many sources (the Player's Handbook, Book of Exalted Deeds, Book of Vile Darkness, Heroes of Horror, Champions of Valor and Champions of Ruin especially) talk about alignment, they don't particularly get along with each other. Alignment is a contradictory mess full of double-standards, exceptions, confusing 'hard rules', and just plain lack of moral thought. This makes it hard to talk about in 'always' cases, especially ones like Half-Celestial that were published early on.

However, free will is a common trend

Think of Half-Celestials as having an innate instinct for goodness - they understand about mercy, empathy, compassion, love, and forgiveness the way normal people understand about breathing. As free-willed beings, they don't have to listen to these instincts - but they do have to live with them. Evil is not comfortable for such beings. Perhaps some turn to it out of a perverse thrill, the way masochists get attached to pain, but outside of those exceptional few evil is difficult and uncomfortable for beings whose essence is at least partially composed of elemental goodness the way a fire elemental is made of fire. No, there's nothing stopping a fire elemental from taking up, say, water skiing but it's certainly not the best hobby in the world for it.

There are examples of 'always' beings outside of those alignments

Fallen celestials, lawful slaadi, chaotic modrons and risen fiends exist in the 3.5 universe, often as published NPCs. The alignment rules state that if a being acts in accordance with a new alignment, they take up that alignment. From a mechanical perspective, if a half-celestial does consistent evil, then it is evil-aligned.

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According to the Monster Manual v3.5, p.305, "always good" means the creature is only found without that alignment in rare cases:

Always: The creature is born with the indicated alignment. The creature may have a hereditary predisposition to the alignment or come from a plane that predetermines it. It is possible for individuals to change alignment, but such individuals are either unique or rare exceptions.

Sean K Reynolds' 2003 sourcebook Anger of Angels presents some interesting templates for celestials who are not good-aligned. This usually occurs when an angel is cast out for accidentally or intentionally committing evil acts or violating the deity's rules. A deity may also create evil angels to commit evil acts for the greater good.

According to the Anger of Angels falling from grace rules:

  • A half-celestial who commits an evil act becomes "outcast", suffering -2 Wisdom and losing any evil-related racial powers (e.g. Smite Evil, protection from evil, holy word) until he receives an atonement.
  • If he refuses to atone, abandons his deity and shifts to non-good alignment, he can become a "rebellious angel", gaining +2 Charisma.
  • If he becomes evil, he can become a "fallen angel". All of the evil-affecting abilities he lost are replaced with their good-affecting equivalents (e.g. detect evil becomes detect good.) He loses the -2 Wisdom / +2 Charisma from being outcast/rebellious, if he had them. If he had paladin levels, he converts to blackguard. He is now considered a demon or devil instead of a celestial, for the purpose of spell effects.
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