Take the 2-minute tour ×
Role-playing Games Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for gamemasters and players of tabletop, paper-and-pencil role-playing games. It's 100% free, no registration required.

What is the mechanism to dismount an opponent in mounted combat? What are the rolls?

The only rules for an "unseat" action I've found are the unseat feat, which enables a lance-wielding rider to get a free bullrush attempt against another rider. If successful, the other rider automatically falls off his mount and prone.

share|improve this question
4  
Are you specifically interested in dismounting the rider, or are you also interested in answers about tripping the mount itself? –  BESW Oct 20 '13 at 10:40
    
Dismounting the rider –  Shahal Oct 20 '13 at 13:24
2  
Doesn't damage inherently force the rider to make a Ride check to stay seated? Admittedly, this won't scale very well since it's a fixed DC. –  leokhorn Oct 20 '13 at 21:20
    
Damage does as far as I recall, however what about making a trip or some other combat maneuver to dismount an opponent. The way I see it, no one mentioned trip on a mounted opponent because it has no exception and it is like regular trip. Share your thoughts. –  Shahal Oct 20 '13 at 21:43
add comment

3 Answers

up vote 3 down vote accepted

While not tripping, there are various things that could work as they do allow you to move opponents in various ways. It might however come down to DM variance.

Drag: Grabbing the target and hauling him out of the saddle by main force(straight backward)

Bull-Rush: May need a jump check(Flying tackle)

Reposition: Drag an opponent around(with the exception that it must remain remain within reach)

There is also the feat Pushing Assault(APG)(you need power attack, STR 15, BAB 1 and a two handed weapon as pre-reqs) which lets you push an opponent backward.

There are also the monster abilities Pull and Push that do much the same as Drag/Bull-Rush(with the limit of it must be a smaller creature than the monster)

share|improve this answer
add comment

This might seem a bit obvious, but killing the mount usually works. Most mounts encountered in play are horses, and most horses don't have more than the standard hit dice for their kind, so a sneak attack or damaging spell can reliably kill a mount in one shot after the first few levels of play.

If you need or want to keep the mount alive, nonlethal damage sneak attacks are fairly easy to arrange, and there's a wide variety of save-or-X spells that target any given mount's weak saves.

share|improve this answer
    
Fireball (and other AoE spells) are particularly useful, as they can wipe out the mount and damage the rider at the same time. –  GMJoe Oct 21 '13 at 2:52
    
This is a good answer, but would be better if it addressed the case of more difficult-to-kill mounts (paladin mounts, druid animal companions, wild cohorts, etc.). Also, bear in mind that most mounted characters are going to have Mounted Combat and plenty of Ride ranks and quite likely also bonuses, which means the first attack each round against their mount is going to miss unless they get fairly unlucky. –  KRyan Oct 21 '13 at 15:47
    
@KRyan Agreed, I really should flesh it out with details of the more common special cases, considerations and examples; I'll try and do that once I have access to my books. –  GMJoe Oct 22 '13 at 0:31
add comment

The trip maneuver inflicts the prone condition. I would think that involves being off the mount on the ground.

The NPC Codex tactics are a bit notoriously not always rules correct, but the Horse Monk from that book has this as his tactics:

During Combat The monk prefers to fight from horseback, and uses Ride-By Attack and Lunge to hit foes so he faces little risk of retaliation. He often uses Stunning Fist on the first pass, and if successful follows with a Spirited Charge. Against other mounted foes, he uses Improved Trip to unhorse his opponents if possible.

The Unseat feat seems to imply that a Bull Rush does the same thing (which would make sense, if you get pushed 5' you're not on your horse...) I would think a rider would have some bonuses against both maneuvers based on higher ground and type of saddle...

share|improve this answer
add comment

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.