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First of all, I apologize for my English, and overall, for any technical word I may misstep, as I usually role-play in Spanish.

Any Mage: The Ascension players or storytellers? I was looking for some ideas on Arete quests (or visions, or stories, or seekings… don’t know what you call them). I usually make my players write a little story involving s/he and their avatar in some kind of metaphysical confrontation of ideas. Then I read it, we change it a bit according to the game history, and they usually end up with pretty good stuff so they increase their Arete. More or less as suggested in the Book of Shadows. But as the history grows, and we play many games, the system seems to be a bit repetitive, so I was looking for any suggestions.

Also, I normally play with Tradition mages; for Technocrats, I think it could be different, but I don’t want the "spend experience, have the dot" thing. Even further out, how could it be for the Nephandi or the Marauders?

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Hello, Random. I've cleaned up some of the text for clarity and so the English is clearer. Also: the word in the English translation of M:tA for the quest to raise Arete is "seeking," so I've added that where applicable. (You were right in your guess that the book you wanted was the Book of Shadows, rather than Madness.) – Jadasc Nov 29 '10 at 18:40
Hello! Thanks for cleaning up the post. – Random Dec 1 '10 at 8:48

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Could you reverse your formula? Have the character teach something to the avatar. I think this could work if you could get them started on on the right direction. They should learn while teaching. What I like about this idea is it will make the players think proactively instead of reactively.

Could you take away the avatar and making the seeking a way for the character to recover the avatar? This is a little easier than the teaching idea, but is probably something you can only use once as a monotony breaker.

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I like the first idea. As the Mage grows they could teach their avatar. Although I think it's a bit out of the 'my avatar guides me to ascension' idea. But it seems a good way to make the players more active in their seekings. The second idea also seems ok, but just for a one-shoot. Thanks! – Random Dec 1 '10 at 9:55

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