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It is commonly said that epic spellcasting in D&D 3.5e is broken. What are some examples of broken epic spellcasters?

It is commonly said that epic spellcasting in D&D 3.5e is broken. What are some examples of broken epic spellcasters? Available options I've read about include things like chain-gating solars to ...
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Overpowered PCs (Gabe's Dilemma) [closed]

Penny Arcade recently ran the following strip: (Original strip here) While the resolution of this thread hasn't yet been posted, I'm wondering what we think here. How do you game with PCs who are ...
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What is the point of level 20 features?

What exactly is the point of the "capstone" features? Unless your group goes beyond level 20, won't your campaign be over, or virtually over? Most of the capstones are incredibly awesome, so it would ...
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Is the epic boon progression too fast?

The PHB's required XP for leveling can generally be described as, "For your next level, you'll need more than what was required for this level," with a notable exception between going from level 10 to ...
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What is the best way to handle hundreds of attacks?

For one of my campaigns I'm running I'm wanting to do a pitched battle of sorts, like a 100 v 100 sort of affair. The problem I'm running into is that there are going to be a lot of attacks, ...
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What's with this tier stuff, and how does that translate to levels?

I've seen a few questions mentioning things like "paragon tier" or "epic tier". What are tiers? What game(s) are they used in ? How do they translate to D&D 3.5/Pathfinder Levels?
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Making epic combat interesting and challenging but not complicated

I'm running up on the tail end of a year-and-a-half 4e campaign, and epic levels are exhausting to GM. Everyone has more weird powers than you can shake a dragon at, and that includes the NPCs --...
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Is it possible to play an Epic D&D3.5/Pathfinder campaign with a non-magic hero?

My DM is going to arrange a campaign of Epic Gestalts (LvL 24/24), I wanted to play a non-magic user, but they are so underpowered that I probably can't, the closest to a non-magic user I seem to find ...
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What are advantages of the Boon of High Magic over the Boon of Spell Recall?

DMG p. 231-232 describes many epic boons for after level 20. Two of those are: Boon of High Magic You gain one 9th-level spell slot, provided that you already have one. and Boon of Spell Recall You ...
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If I give max-level player characters a 1-level multiclass dip, will it cause any major problems?

My players are level 18 on our 2-year campaign. I am in the process of writing a story where they will switch souls. After that campaign, I thought of rewarding all of them with a 1-level dip in any ...
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Why is Epic Spellcasting suggested for a Ranger?

According to the Epic Level Handbook, in order to qualify for the Epic Spellcasting Feat, one must meet the following prerequisites: Spellcraft 24 ranks, Knowledge (arcana) 24 ranks, ability to ...
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What happens to divine power when you go epic?

Divine power (without capitalization) is a cleric spell that, among other things, sets your BAB to equal your level. Now, when you gain epic levels, you stop gaining BAB, you gain an epic bonus every ...
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What is Epic Magic in D&D 5e?

I've been reading and writing some adventures for my level 18 party. Currently we are exploring Epic Magic. I've described the realm of Netheril, Karsus's Folly, and Mystra's Ban. I've explained that'...
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Reasonable stats for a god (DR 25) [closed]

I'm constructing a god based on a video game boss to assist a DM friend of mine, which means that ultimately it is intended that the players may (or perhaps WILL) confront his avatar. Given this, I ...
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How can I minimize the risk of mind control with magic items?

We are playing a very overpowered game (which is perhaps at the level of rocket tag), but is a ton of fun. My character is a 17th-level Zealot Barbarian (Xanathar's Guide to Everything, p. 11) and I ...
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Can I use the Boon of Spell Mastery as a warlock for a spell that I didn't learn as a warlock, but learned as a different class?

If I have a bard with cure wounds, and take one level of Celestial warlock (Xanathar's Guide to Everything, p. 54) before getting the Boon of Spell Mastery (DMG, 232): Choose one 1st-level sorcerer,...
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What happens after level 30?

Most of the forum posts I've read say you retire your character at level 30 but wouldn't that make the level 30 Epic Destiny features useless? There must be something after. Why give us cool new ...
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How to represent an "Abhorsien," "Speaker for the Dead," or "Shepherd of Souls" type of theme?

I have a character who recently hit level 21, which will be the last level of the campaign. As such, I am looking for something fitting her destiny more than power, and the DM is most likely willing ...
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Compared to the other Epic Feats that are readily available at level 21, is Multispell as obviously imbalanced as it appears?

It seems obvious to me that Epic Feats are imbalanced - that is to say, that there is a great disparity in the relative power of feats with comparable requirements - but a lot of this is made hard to ...
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What is dysfunctional, controversial, or negative about Epic skill checks?

I often see it said that the entire Epic Level Handbook should be dismissed as broken and frequently dysfunctional. However, outside of claims that the entire book is bad, I never see Epic skill ...
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Fabricate + Epic Ignore Components = Creation?

Fabricate can make items with raw materials: Material Component: The original material, which costs the same amount as the raw materials required to craft the item to be created. Now, if one have ...
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Average attack bonus of a 30th level character in DnD 4e

What is the average attack of 30th level D&D character? (Of course this number must be calculated without uber-strong homebrew items). My real question is this: What is the average chance of ...
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How do I create Plants in 3.5e?

Our campaign is plodding along steadily and we are approaching the various character made Demiplane levels of play. These demiplanes are full of non living materials, but this question can be applied ...
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Shortcuts for GMs preparing a boss sheet

Due to time constraints, I simply do not have the time any more to read through the list of all the feats, all possible enchantments, and all the prestige classes, to then build a boss. What are the ...
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Aside from Epic Spellcasting, what earned Epic level play its bad reputation? [closed]

Among 3.5e players, the Epic Level Handbook has a very bad reputation and its rules are often called out as being highly dysfunctional. In addition to this, high level play in general has a poor ...
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Is there a lore explanation to the Improved Spell Capacity feat?

I have been glancing through the epic feats. I ran into a feat called Improved Spell Capacity, which allows a caster to cast up to 25th-level spells. As far as my lore knowledge goes, after the ...
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What is the name of this "living planet" creature?

I remember from back when I played 4th edition more, that there exists within the lore some sort of Abberation creature that was described as being "a living planet, from the Far Realm". It's ...
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What's the order of operations when multiple game elements check that a monster's dropped to 0 hp?

I'm considering for my PC the epic destiny Keeper of the Everflow, in part, because of the level 30 epic destiny feature turning the wheel that, among others, grants the following ability: When you ...
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Can Boon of Luck be recharged on a long rest?

I was looking at the boons page in the DMG and the Boon of Luck says You can add a d10 roll to any ability check, attack roll, or saving throw you make. Once you use this boon, you can't use it ...
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Does an Epic character in 3.5 get new spells if they pick up a new base class?

In 3.5, the epic rules rules state that no new spell slots are obtained after level 20. But if a 20th level wizard, say, picks up a level of cleric to get to level 21 (20 Wiz 1 Clr) does that ...
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How many iterative attacks does an epic creature with class levels get?

A naztharune rakshasa (MM3 136-7) has from its Hit Dice a Base Attack Bonus of +11, 8 levels of rogue granting a Base Attack Bonus of +6, and 6 levels of scout (CW 10-13) granting a Base Attack Bonus ...
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Is the D&D Pantheon as invincible as it appears?

I've recently taking up the ill-advised task of skimming Deities and Demigods. Numerous times throughout this book, the idea of PCs killing off the gods is entertained. For example, page 31 says that ...
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Are the percentile-based Warhammer 40k RPGs suitable for high-level play?

In percentile-based RPGs, there seems to be a fundamental problem with high-level play. Consider this, from any of the Warhammer 40k RPGs, such as Death Watch: My character has 70 WS(weapon skill), ...
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Is the Wield Oversized Weapon epic feat as bad as it looks?

Wield Oversized Weapon [Epic] is on pg 153 of Complete Warrior. Compared to Monkey Grip on pg 103 (shown below WOW), it looks like all you get for 25 STR and 21 BAB is +2 to hit and the ability to use ...
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Are there official Epic Stats for Arch Lich Vecna?

Vecna and his worlds-dominating plans has become a central figure in our 8-year campaign. If I allow a meeting, I want to be ready with an awesome, God-like immortal with multiple prestige classes, ...
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Does a bonus action end invisibility gained from the Boon of the Night Spirit?

As the title says really. The Boon of the Night Spirit says: While completely in an area of dim light or darkness, you can become invisible as an action. You remain invisible until you take an action ...
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Are there any errata corrections for the epic Paladin's Turn Undead and Remove Disease progressions?

In my campaign the level 20 paladin PC is about to hit level 21 and I noticed 3.5 DMG page 208 states: Turn Undead (Su):The paladin turns undead as a cleric of two levels lower, as normal. ...
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Who pays the XP cost for a spell the Eidolon casts?

The epic spell Eidolon creates a magical duplicate of the caster, "fully rested" and with all the spellcasting potential of its level. Including the ability to cast spells with a XP cost. Who pays ...
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Is a feat that allows one more swift/immediate action per round balanced?

The epic SRD has this feat: Multispell [Epic] Prerequisites: Quicken Spell, ability to cast 9th-level arcane or divine spells. Benefit: You may cast one additional quickened spell in a round. Special:...
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What rules are there for epic spells, if any?

Back in older editions of D&D there were rules for designing epic spells using seeds and factors. These epic spells still exist in Forgotten Realms currently (1400 DR) so what are the rules for ...
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Epic Bluff Use - Instill Suggestion

I have read over the insert on page 39 of the epic level handbook and am still confused by how it reads. The example shows a +50 sense motive modifier and the description says its a sense motive 25 to ...
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Can a Non-Epic character use an Epic Item?

I am having trouble finding a rule that says anything about restrictions with epic magic Items being used by non-epic characters. That's it I just wanted to know if there is some rule in a legit book ...
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Should Artifacts be improved if Epic Level Handbook is introduced to the campaign?

As a recent research, I found that it seems artifacts were designed in the pre-epic era, so their CLs are 20th at most and (if it is a weapon or an armour) can have at most +5 enhancement bonus, which ...
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Why stand on a mount?

Epic Ride checks confer the ability to stand on a mount. What mechanical benefit does this confer? The only description given in the SRD is: This allows the character to stand on his or her mount’s ...
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How to challenge epic level characters? [closed]

I've seen a lot of people ask about epic level characters in D&D. I have played a lot of D&D from 1e to 5e with only a short dip into 4e, which was so different (not necessarily bad, just ...
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An epic weapon with non epic special abilities

According to the SRD a weapon with a weapon enhancement bonus of +6 is an epic weapon and has a market price of 720,000 gp. Supposing a non epic special ability is added to the weapon, say for example ...
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Can Athasian psionicist/druids evolve into "advanced beings" like the other caster classes?

In Athas, there are options for high level Psionicist / Clerics or Psionicist / (Defilers | Preservers) to become advanced beings. Is there such an advancement path for high level Psionicist / Druids?...
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A system ranking epic levels alongside divine ranks?

I was wondering how many epic levels could I say one divine rank is worth. Of course, this is a difficult question to answer with precision, considering that wizard 21 for epic spellcasting is ...
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How many epic spell seeds can you know?

I understand the ruling on epic spells per day, and how many epic spells know, but does the 'seed' itself count as a spell itself that takes up one of the slots? I am reading Epic Spellcasting in the ...
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What happens when a character with the Immanence Destiny takes Dual-Type damage?

A character with the Immanence Epic Destiny has the following ability: Immanence Variable Resistance (21st level): After the first time you take damage of a particular type during an encounter, you ...
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