Questions tagged [stealth]

For questions about the ability to remain undetected by other creatures, either by skill or special effect. (See also: the [concealment] tag.)

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Are there any rules for using Stealth after attacking?

The 3E Stealth rules for hiding read as follows: HIDING If you have cover or concealment, make a Stealth check, opposed by an observer’s Perception check, to hide and go unnoticed. If others are ...
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In combat, does a hidden character lose half their speed?

Last session, my bard polymorphed a fellow party member into a T-Rex to fight another T-Rex. As concentration had to be kept, I made my bard take the hide action, which succeeded. My bard had no ...
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Is Darkness an effective spell for making someone's approach less likely to be noticed in a dark environment?

While brainstorming ways to sneak up on someone, one idea was to go at night and cloak our infiltrator (who can see through magical darkness) with the Darkness spell. The expectation was that being ...
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If a hidden Order of Scribes wizard uses the Manifest Mind feature to cast a spell with an attack roll from the spectral mind's space, what happens?

Say I'm playing an Order Of Scribes wizard with the Manifest Mind feature (TCoE, p. 77-78). My wizard has successfully hidden from an enemy. I've already used Manifest Mind to make my spectral mind ...
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Does Nature's Mantle work with Pass Without Trace?

Nature's Mantle allows you to use the Hide action if you are lightly obscured. While you are in an area that is lightly obscured, you can Hide as a bonus action even if you are being directly ...
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When attacking with Spiritual Weapon, what must be concealed from the target for me to gain advantage?

Spiritual weapon claims that you make a melee spell attack against a target adjacent to your spiritual weapon. The rules for attacking while being unseen state that if the target cannot see you, you ...
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How to spot a sneaky character that uses Hide in Plain sight + leaves no trace + has high "hide" ability

I see this question as the continuation to a previous question (best-ways-to-spot-sneaky-characters). What are all the possible ways to spot an NPC or a player that has Hide in Plain sight (HiPs), ...
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Ways to become dazzled

The Dazzled Condition is quite useful for my rogue since if a creature is dazzled I am concealed. So I can make a Hide Action to become Hidden and so I can make a Sneak Attack. My question would be ...
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Casting scrolls while hiding?

How do you rule on a rogue that is invisible (superior invisibility), incorporeal, hiding in plain sight (sop) casting from scrolls? Does he get penalties to hide? Does the scroll emit lights which ...
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Does a rogue need to Hide after every attack of a full round attack ranged? [closed]

Based on the answer from KRyan to my previous question about full round attacks done by a rogue hiding in plain sight I know that the rogue needs to roll for hide after every melee attack. so if the ...
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Is it impossible to spot an invisible character from farther than 30 feet?

The Rule Compendium, page 76 (invisibility) introduces the concept that it is possible to spot an invisible character within 30 feet (with a spot check that would be minimum 20+20= DC40). Does this ...
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Are spot enhancements inferior to hide enhancements?

I have been searching ways (with spells and items) to enhance the spot check and ways to enhance the hide check (with spells and items). We have a PC in our campaign maxing out his spot and another ...
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What's the procedure for monsters/NPCs using stealth?

I've been GMing PF2e for a few months, but I still struggle with understanding stealth, especially when it comes to enemies. An example from an upcoming dungeon I'm planning: There's a room with an ...
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Hide in Plain sights (HiPs)- is there any need to bluff or distract the observer?

Can a player with HiPs ignore the need to make a distraction or use bluff to avoid the observer having a clue on where they hide? For example, at the start of their turn they declare to hide with HipS,...
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Hide in Plain sight (HiPs) - does it work if I cast light on myself?

Could a rogue with Hide in Plain sight (SP- e.g. shadowdancer) (HiPs) cast on themselves the spell light just to create shadows to hide in? Reading "light and darkness" in the rule ...
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Does a rogue need to Hide after every attack of a full attack action in melee?

After reviewing various topics (see below for reference) I was unable to find an answer. A rogue shadowdancer approaches their target using Hips to hide, is now in front of the target. Attacks melee ...
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Hide in Plain Sight vs True Seeing

Does casting True Seeing pierce through a Ranger's Hide in Plain Sight? What about a Shadowdancer's Hide in Plain Sight? According to the True Seeing description: True seeing does not help the ...
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Does an accidentally true belief that I am nearby constitute "awareness?"

From the Core Rulebook: If you are unnoticed by a creature, that creature has no idea you are present at all. When you’re unnoticed, you’re also undetected by the creature. This condition matters for ...
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How do I design an assassination mission, that is a challenge for the rogue, but not impossible for the other party members and requires teamwork? [closed]

My level 11 rogue/assassin player talked to me after our most recent session, because he feels that he cannot play the character as he planned him to be. He wants to use his rogue abilities and sneak ...
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How to detect an Unseen Servant?

Relevant parts of Unseen Servant spell: This spell creates an invisible, mindless, shapeless, Medium force that performs simple tasks at your command until the spell ends. The servant springs into ...
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In a PvP arena, how can other characters deal with a Rogue with Expertise in Stealth?

I'm running an arena-style fight between a lot of PCs. It's now getting to the point that there are few enough PCs that they are beginning to take levels to counter one another. One of the players ...
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Can Ride be used to Push a mount/animal companion?

Suppose a mount does not know the Sneak trick. Could Ride be used to get the mount to use stealth? The specifics of the situation: Character is a Goblin Hunter, Level 4 with a Wolf animal companion. ...
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Stealth when blind

The blinded condition says: The creature cannot see. It takes a –2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a –4 penalty on most Strength– and Dexterity-based skill ...
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How do you handle Perception checks in different levels of obscurement?

How should you handle rolling for perception in areas with different levels of obscurement? E.g in darkness illuminated only by a torch (20ft bright light and 20ft dim light beyond that) or on a field ...
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When Perception contests Stealth, how do you know which side gets advantage or disadvantage?

When we run skill contests, especially Stealth contested by Perception, we sometimes struggle to work out whether to apply advantage to one skill or disadvantage to the other. It matters for two ...
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How does eldritch blast interact with being hidden?

A level 5 goblin warlock moves behind a large tree and uses their bonus action to Hide. Their Stealth check beats the enemy's passive Perception. The hidden warlock then casts eldritch blast and rolls....
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If you move into a lightly obscured area after hiding in a heavily obscured area, are you automatically seen? [duplicate]

Is there a rule in the game for how much obscurance you need to remain hidden once you are already hidden? If I'm a Goblin in a pitch black cave, and I am fighting an Elf who has Darkvision, and I am ...
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Can a Stealth check ever be made passively?

The PHB, at p. 175, presents passive skill checks as a means to represent two different kinds of in-game scenarios: Such a check can represent the average result for a task done repeatedly, such as ...
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What happens when an unnoticed creature rolls Stealth for initiative and fails the check?

Suppose the adventurer Alice is moving stealthily and using the Avoid Notice exploration activity, and then tries to sneak up on an enemy Bob. Alice rolls a Stealth check for initiative versus Bob's ...
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Should a sneaking group use group checks?

I always considered sneaking to be a per character check, because I have a hard time imagining a paladin in shiny, heavy and loud armor sneaking silently, just because a rogue with stealth expertise ...
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The Armorer artificer's Infiltrator Armor Model negates disadvantage on Stealth from armor; can you still gain advantage on the check by other means?

The Armorer artificer's Armor Model feature (TCoE, p. 16) lets you customize your Arcane Armor into the Infiltrator or Guardian armor models, each of which grants several benefits. The Infiltrator ...
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Hiding with a Cloak of Elvenkind vs Faerie Fire

In a game, my PC hid using the cloak of elvenkind and the GM used Faerie Fire to expose me. Faerie Fire states that shimmering out line of an invisible creature is exposed. Will Faerie Fire expose you ...
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How does Hunter's Bane work?

i am a new Pathfinder2E DM, and during my third session or so, the players received a Talisman called Hunter's Bane, copying from the AON: Source Core Rulebook pg. 567 2.0 Activate: Free Action (...
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Are there any consequences to walking into a hidden enemy?

Suppose a PC is looking at an area of darkness that a foe has Hidden in. The PC would prefer not to guess the square the enemy is in and potentially waste their attack, so they decide to use their ...
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Is there a way to Stealth but allow your allies to target you?

In my campaign, I recently acquired Legendary Sneak, meaning I do not need cover nor concealment to retain my Hidden and Undetected conditions when using Stealth. This has some excellent benefits ...
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What is the mechanical result of Legendary Sneak?

Legendary Sneak allows you to Hide or Sneak without any form of Cover or Concealment. Of course this calls back to the confusion that is PF1e Hide in Plain Sight, but I think this one might be more ...
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Melee cover vs Cover - Can you always use Stealth?

I am using this image from another post, which is why it has lines drawn on it that are useful for only a small aspect of this question: According to the stealth rules, you need cover in order to ...
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Multiple attacks against unaware targets

Searching for how to handle all surprise scenarios, I still have one question. Say that the PC is sneaking up on enemies/enemy and silent-cast Dissonant whispers. You whisper a discordant melody that ...
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Hiding without using Hide action

One of my players is playing a rogue and from time to time it happens that he goes behind a wall and ends the turn there. When he start his new turn is he automatically hidden and therefore can he use ...
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When should initiative be rolled during a surprise attack?

This question does a good job explaining how surprise attacks work for the most part, but I'm not sure how such an attack would actually play out, here is what happened in my last game: There was a ...
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When stealing something, do you need to roll both Stealth and Sleight of Hand checks?

Scenario: An Arcane Trickster casts disguise self to appear as a blind old man. In a crowded room, his accomplice distracts the target, while the Arcane Trickster tries to steal his pouch of gold. ...
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When hiding, how close can you get to enemies before they can potentially detect you?

The following situation: 2 Members of the party try to sneak up on distracted enemies. The other two, not stealth proficient players want to stay 20 feet behind, not roll stealth and join after the ...
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Silence = -4 to Notice against Sounds, but what about Notice against Stealth in general?

Silence gives anyone who tries to hear you -4 to their Notice roll (or an auto-fail with a Raise), but how much does this spell influence your Stealth roll where you also have to stay out of sight? I ...
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How does moving silently with Greater Invisibility after taking an action work?

This question could be simplified with "How does moving silently away from enemy on same turn after casting Invisibility work", but I'll present the full scenario in case it makes a ...
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What do you roll to sleep in a hidden spot?

Scenario: a character is alone in the forest, and needs to sleep. Of course, they don't want to get killed in their sleep, so they try to sleep in a hidden spot, like inside the treetops, heavily ...
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Does True Strike alert an enemy to my presence? [duplicate]

The spell text makes no mention of any effect that would be perceived by the target, so unless there is another rule that would come into play, I suspect that a player could use True Strike without ...
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Does Wind Walk grant stealth benefits due to gaseous form?

There has already been some helpful discussion about whether wind walk in D&D 5e also gives the extra effects associated with gaseous form (Just how gaseous is the "gaseous form" of the ...
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How do Shadowdancer's Hide in Plain Sight, Hellcat Stealth, and enemies' darkvision interact?

I recently had a game where there was some uncertainty, so I'm here to ask you how this interaction works. I have a character, a Shadowdancer. This character has also got the Hellcat Stealth feat. The ...
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Can you stealth against tremorsense?

I am confused to the interaction between the monster special ability tremorsense and the skills of perception and stealth. Specifically what my issue is that tremorsense gets to "automatically ...
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Perception While Sleeping

While a creature is asleep (naturally, not as a result of an enchantment spell), does it continue to use its unmodified Perception score, or is it disadvantaged as a result of it being effectively in ...

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