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Timeline for Crystal Master and Vow of Poverty

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Sep 10, 2017 at 20:09 comment added Cellheim @KRyan Of course.
Sep 10, 2017 at 19:58 comment added KRyan @Cellheim No matter how much you like them, please make sure your party (each and every player, not just the DM) is OK with those. They drastically change the nature of the game and for many players, the game it changes into is no longer D&D. I have decided not to participate in games because players took Vow of Peace, and I consider it to be among the rudest things you can do in a game of 3.5 to take that feat without clearing it with the party.
Sep 10, 2017 at 19:55 comment added Cellheim Also I like the flavor of Vow of Poverty's abilities (along with those of Vow of Non-Violence and Vow of Peace) and I'm not worried about the loss in power, because I'll still be strong in comparison to the rest of my group.
Sep 10, 2017 at 19:45 comment added Cellheim @HeyICanChan I respect what the sage has to say, but "If you have to ask, then you're breaking vow of poverty" is a truly ridiculous thing to say as it presupposes some kind of awareness with what is allowed by RAW. It's not immediately obvious to everyone that warforged plating or incarnum abilities (which in many cases seem to create items) would be okay, but crafted contingent spells (which seems odd to consider an item) are not. Not everyone has the same level of understanding.
Sep 10, 2017 at 14:22 comment added Hey I Can Chan @Cellheim Here's the link to the Q&A that says, essentially, "If you have to ask, then you're breaking the Vow of Poverty." By the way, I, too, recommend against the Vow—the bonuses are comparatively terrible in all but the stingiest campaigns, and just playing your PC like he had a vow of poverty (lower-case V and P) will make the PC more competitive, flexible, and rewarding and without any mechanical baggage.
Sep 10, 2017 at 12:31 vote accept Cellheim
Sep 10, 2017 at 12:31 vote accept Cellheim
Sep 10, 2017 at 12:31
Sep 10, 2017 at 12:25 comment added KRyan @Cellheim Well, whether or not you can borrow expensive components from teammates is sort of questionable, RAW—it’s not one of the exceptions listed in the feat, but it’s explicitly mentioned in the Voluntary Poverty section on page 30. Whether that flies as a modification to the vow is unclear, again RAW-speaking. But regardless of the answer there, RAW certainly offers no similar or broader exception to use these items for anything else. And again, Wizards has interpreted that very strictly in the past—see the absurd prohibition on divine foci.
Sep 10, 2017 at 10:09 comment added Cellheim So I can borrow a gem from a friend to use as a spell component but I can't use that same gem as a supernatural ability component even though it will similarly be consumed in the process?
Sep 9, 2017 at 20:17 history answered KRyan CC BY-SA 3.0