Timeline for Mathematically, is a +2 bonus to AC better than attackers having disadvantage?
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| Nov 21, 2019 at 6:22 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 26, 2019 at 4:55 | comment | added | Spoo | @Erik yes I agree but generally speaking the answer was asking 'mathematically' which is the best choice. I grant you other forms of DA can always muck with math. | |
| May 26, 2019 at 4:51 | comment | added | Spoo | @SeraphsWrath This can be seen below 3 = 90% 3 with DA = 81% .. Thus 90%-81% = 9% < +2 4 = 85% 4 with DA = 72% .. Thus 85%-72% = 13% > +2 18 = 15% 18 with DA = 2.2% .. Thus 15% - 2.2% = 13.2% >= +2 19 = 10% 19 with DA = 1% Thus 10% - 1% = 9 % < +2 Thus only for the extreme edges of to hit rolls is a +2 EVER better. Considering these number alottments +2 is better on 5 numbers, and DA is better on 15 numbers. Thus as a standard defense mechanism DA is a fundamentally a better choice unless you absolutely know your fighting against one of these extremes. | |
| May 26, 2019 at 4:45 | comment | added | Spoo | @SeraphsWrath If you read my argument carefully, I never stated that the cloak was better for weaker mobs. I specified that if the mob needed a 3 or less to hit you (a super high end mob) or if a mob needed a 19 or more to hit you (a super low end mob) advantage will always provide more than a +2 or more bonus in the middle ranges and thus is strictly better. | |
| Apr 26, 2018 at 5:02 | comment | added | Erik | The biggest problem isn't so much stacking the Bracers, it's all the other sources of Disadvantage that don't help you anymore. Fighting in darkness? Wizard buddy poisoning people? Protection Style fighter guarding you? None of those things have any effect anymore with the cloak. Depending on how common they are, you might come off quite the worse for wearing the Cloak over the Bracers. | |
| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:40 | history | edited | Slagmoth | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:28 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:27 | comment | added | SeraphsWrath | Actually, after doing the math, I would disagree with you about your conclusion: "The Cloaks are better for mobs of weaker minions, whereas the +2 is better for bigger baddies." Even using your +12 to hit monster, the chance of rolling an 8 or higher Standard is 65% while the chance for them to roll a 6 or higher on Disadvantage is 56.4%. Neither option is appealing, but one is clearly better. Meanwhile, from experience, someone with a 20 AC can wade through a horde of low-level Mooks and they just can't do anything. | |
| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:21 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:13 | comment | added | Spoo | As for the differences of bracers in a vacuum. To be polite, that fact is irrelevant and already covered by discussing the creatures target number. It all depends on the creatures target number to hit you. If you stack it with something else, the creatures target number just shifts. In which case the answer is still valid. | |
| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:11 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 26, 2018 at 3:03 | history | edited | Slagmoth | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 26, 2018 at 2:57 | history | answered | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |