Timeline for If a power says 'move your speed', what happens while I'm prone?
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| Mar 29, 2012 at 20:12 | comment | added | Trey Kirk | @arotter - Pat's point is valid: all forms of voluntary movement are ultimately a result of some action: Walk, Crawl, Fly, Climb, Teleport, Squeeze, etc. Consider the definition of "Speed": "The distances (in squares) that a creature can move using the walk action." This clarifies that "normal" movement is still an action: Walk. There isn't anything (voluntary) that is just "Movement" without being some action. In turn, other forms of movement are themselves self-describing actions and are subject to Prone's selective nature. Prone would have to say, "you can also Lightning Rush". | |
| Mar 18, 2012 at 16:56 | comment | added | Pat Ludwig | @arotter - I think you aren't correct but I encourage you to enter your own answer. I'd feel a lot better if more 4e questions around here had well written contrary opinions for people to vote on. | |
| Mar 18, 2012 at 13:52 | comment | added | user2862 |
However, if you consider Lightning Rush being its own Movement option in itself rather than merely requiring the character being able to take a valid Movement action, then you're correct. But your interpretation somewhat limits the use of Lightning Rush to characters with a fly/swim/climb speed since those aren't "normal" movements either.
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| Mar 18, 2012 at 13:51 | comment | added | user2862 |
Yes, but from my reading crawl and Lightning Rush are not mutually exclusive, since the power doesn't put any further restrictions on the required movement. (i.) Lightning Rush allows you to use a valid Movement option to get adjacent to the triggering enemy (ii.) Prone restricts your valid Movement options to forced moves, teleport and Crawl (iii.) Crawl is a valid Movement option that lets you move half your speed while prone
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| Mar 18, 2012 at 8:30 | comment | added | Pat Ludwig | @arotter - prone tells you the ways that you are allowed to move. Lightning Rush is a way to move (via its effect). It isn't one of the few ways that prone allows. When you are not prone, you usually have few restrictions on how you can move. Walking, running, charging and lightning rush are all options. (Crawl is not) | |
| Mar 18, 2012 at 7:26 | comment | added | user2862 |
If prone restricts you to crawl as your only non-forced non-teleport movement option and Lightning Rush allows you to "move" (and doesn't specify that you must walk), why wouldn't you be able to crawl towards your enemy as part of the power's effect? Right now I can't see the point where the chain of argument breaks.
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| Mar 16, 2012 at 13:05 | vote | accept | Kayla | ||
| Mar 16, 2012 at 5:11 | history | answered | Pat Ludwig | CC BY-SA 3.0 |