Timeline for Can a sleeping character Hide?
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| Feb 7, 2019 at 4:14 | comment | added | KilrathiSly | I agree with Kryan, there is no such thing as an pre-rolled opposed check. The example that have been used here like disguise and decipher script are hidden checks, not opposed rolls. | |
| May 13, 2016 at 15:08 | comment | added | Dan Henderson | This might be an appropriate time for the option of using an different ability score from the one normally associated with a particular skill. If one of my players wanted to do this, I'd call for a Hide check using the character's INT modifier, rather than their DEX. | |
| Apr 7, 2014 at 19:27 | history | edited | Jeroen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Footnote moved inside post, reads a bit easier like this I'd think
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| Apr 16, 2013 at 6:14 | comment | added | Jeroen | "When your character uses a skill, you make a skill check". Simple enough IMHO. | |
| Apr 16, 2013 at 4:27 | comment | added | GMJoe | @KRyan I was responding to your "I do not see any indication that there is ever such a thing as a 'pre-rolled opposed check' like you describe" comment. As you can see, there is such a thing, if only in exceptional circumstances. Now, we need to determine why those circumstances qualify as exceptional and see if hiding before sleeping meets those same requirements. | |
| Apr 15, 2013 at 21:19 | comment | added | NiteCyper | Spot is more passive than Search. Hide is active. Is it the skill to transitively hide someTHING? That seems more like Sleight of hand. CatLord's idea highlights the DEX-key nature of Hide, and how its application in this situation seems nonsequitur. I feel that CatLord's idea is a step in the right direction. Dexterity may have to be justified as bodily discipline in keeping the integrity of one's hiding spot during sleep, the lack of skill check modification over time which relates to the attritional issue that most of us agree (should) factors in. | |
| Apr 15, 2013 at 21:03 | comment | added | NiteCyper | The counter-argument is that the devs didn't account for passive use of the Hide skill, rather than the active that they set rules for. GMJoe's examples set precedents for...this issue. But what is it called? Passive opposed skill checks? It might help to name more examples. For KRyan's side, an example where the option of saving a check is avoided, should be procured. Hide is an example: different observers, different checks. | |
| Apr 15, 2013 at 15:03 | comment | added | KRyan | @GMJoe Yes, in that case there's a specific exception. The lack of which seems to indicate to me that Hide does not work the same way. | |
| Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 | comment | added | GMJoe | @KRyan Doesn't the forgery skill explicitly require the check to be made secretly by the GM before the document gets inspected? And a disguise skill roll is made once, and the same result is used every time someone inspects the disguised character... Or am I misremembering? | |
| Apr 14, 2013 at 16:02 | history | edited | Jeroen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Citing the rules
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| Apr 14, 2013 at 14:17 | comment | added | KRyan | Could you please cite the rule that specifies these things? I do not see any indication that there is ever such a thing as a "pre-rolled opposed check" like you describe. | |
| Apr 14, 2013 at 8:36 | history | answered | Jeroen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |