OK hacked this back a lot after being rightfully chastised ;)

Basically, have managed to get my boys (6 and 10) into DnD Essentials and we're working through the starter pack. Its been a bit of a shock to discover that the rest of it is seemingly out of print.

The PDF versions do not include the game maps and tokens etc which are critical for my young group. They need the structure and tangible framework of the game board and monster / player tokens etc.

Are there any options you guys can think of to source what we need to move on once we're done with the starter pack? Is an Insider subscription likely to help much?

I have managed to get my boys (6 and 10) into D&D Essentials and we're working through the starter pack. It's been a bit of a shock to discover that the rest of it is seemingly out of print.

The PDF versions do not include the game maps and tokens etc which are critical for my young group. They need the structure and tangible framework of the game board and monster / player tokens etc.

Are there any options for sourcing what we need to move on once we're done with the starter pack? Is an Insider subscription likely to help much?

first post/question. So, umm, hi! This will probably be a bit long as I get a bit wordy. Sorry in advance :(

I have been waiting for this moment for years now, the kids are finally starting to get old enough to get into some mild tabletop RPG! This is a very exciting time for me. I have in recent years quietly primed their gaming instincts with video games and simple board games leading them in the right direction (Carcassone and Settlers etc) and my long labours are bearing fruit.

Today, my 10 and 6 year year old sons along with my wife and I played some DnD. It was freakin' awesome! I have a captive game crew. They live here. They itch to play games and stuff with their old man. Nirvana, this is what you feel like.

Anyway, we kicked off with the 4e Essentials Starter pack. The red box was a nice touch, impossible to walk past when I saw it. I haven't had much in the way of tabletop since my 2e campaigns in the wayback and found this super accessible. The 10 year old Rogue is all over it and with some help the 6 year old Wizard is very much able to enjoy the ride too. Mum is stoked as there is lots of math, reading and writing.

We've finished the character setup quests and are about to hit the crossroads. I really, really wish this had started as a group thing rather than a single player quest run a few times, nearly lost them a couple of times until we got to the map and the 'real' game started. In hindsight I probably should have run a simple custom starter area. We got there tho and they were super pumped at the game once we got to the goblin caves bit.

Onto the actual questions and problems..

I need a plan for what to do next. I downloaded the free Witchlight Fens single player adventure and I reckon I can bludgeon it into a group setting with some creative license but obviously if the kids get into this I'll need a full version of the game.

The Essentials product I feel is ideal for our needs. Its very clear that we need lots of interesting props and a game map with monster chips etc for our games. The boys are still young and without the tangible structure of the board game portion its very hard to keep them engaged.

Unfortunately, the bloody Essentials packs are out of print @#&%!&(% Thanks Wizards, jerks. You might want to remove the product from your website, maybe?

Some light googling shows that the out of print options for the complete set with tokens and game maps is going to set me back some coin, especially with shipping to Australia. A complete set is becoming a collector's item. I'm cool with using a PDF and printing out tokens and other required resources, but for reasons utterly inexplicable to me the PDF versions do not include tokens and maps which seems absurd. Does DnD Insider grant anything useful in this context?

I want to pay for the product so I'm not interested in dodgy downloads. That said if its possible to get a dodgy pack that includes the missing resources I'd consider it and just buy the digital editions to salve my conscience.

I'm not sure if DnD Next will be as accessible and don't really want to wait anyway.

So, any suggestions? I'd even be open to other game systems but I have history with DnD and would love to stay with it as the boy's first 'serious' RPG if feasible..

OK hacked this back a lot after being rightfully chastised ;)

Basically, have managed to get my boys (6 and 10) into DnD Essentials and we're working through the starter pack. Its been a bit of a shock to discover that the rest of it is seemingly out of print.

The PDF versions do not include the game maps and tokens etc which are critical for my young group. They need the structure and tangible framework of the game board and monster / player tokens etc.

Are there any options you guys can think of to source what we need to move on once we're done with the starter pack? Is an Insider subscription likely to help much?