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I am a level 6 Fallen Aasimar (from Volo's Guide to Monsters) Oath of Vengeance paladin. My goal is to optimize the build for nova damage/most damage I can inflict.

I can't find the right level combinations. I am looking for the build that will meet my maximum DPR goal. I usually use the divine smite not the bonus action smites.

I plan on starting my peak power around 10th-13th level thru 20.

As a character, I want to be the guy who does not try to hide from danger. I walk out in the street to start a gun fight and I want to be persuasive.

I'll be starting at level 6.

Party make up is

  • 1 Wizard
  • 1 Rogue
  • 2 Fighters (1 fighter being a gunslinger)
  • 1 Other paladin
  • 1 Bard
  • 1 Monk
  • 1 Druid
  • 1 Ranger

I'd be number 10 at the table. I do play regularly with these guys every Tuesday. We all are playing fairly optimized builds.

My stats (rolled): 18 17 16 16 9 10 (before racial bonuses or ASI at 4th level)

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Damned nice rolls \$\endgroup\$
    – Paul
    Commented Feb 4, 2018 at 0:57

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Pure Vengeance at 13th level

Stats:
Str 20 [17 base + 1 racial + 2 ASI @ 8th level]
Dex 10 base
Con 18 [16 base + 2 ASI @ 12th level]
Int 9 base
Wis 16 base
Cha 20 [18 base + 2 racial]

Feats:
Great Weapon Master @ 4th-level ASI

Fighting Style:
Great Weapon Fighting

There's not many choices to make with this path, if you're set with Vengeance Paladin. Pick up Great Weapon Master as early as possible and use it only on foes when you have a 85% chance to hit, (at 13th-level, that's 14 AC). Other than that, the -5 to attack hurts you too much as you'll do a lot more damage with smite than with the +10 damage of GWM. This is backed up here, see Markovchain's answer:

Larger base damage = Smaller benefit

This is not surprising. If you can dish out 30 damage without GWM/SS, and you use GWM/SS, then you are also risking dealing no damage on a miss by taking a penalty.

The higher your base damage, the more you have to lose on a miss. Whereas, the additional 10 damage is always constant, so it is more significant if your base damage is small.

In the case of you, being a paladin, and able to dish out 49 damage on a hit with Divine Smite, GWM is not that important to you but you should still pick it up for the potential Bonus Action attack on a crit or kill.


If you're satisfied with the above, here's a little bonus:

10 Eldritch Knight Fighter / 3 Devotion Paladin

A.k.a The Smite Knight

It's one of the highest burst damage I've ever seen played, and have had problems challenging as a DM. If you say everything is "flexible" and if you don't mind deviating from your original Oath and Class, this build is pretty solid.

It focuses on smiting each time you hit, and using Action Surge to double your first turn (It gets even more ridiculous at 20th-level, as you can then Action Surge twice). You can also keep on using GWM when you Channel Sacred Weapon.

The con about this build is that it requires too many ridiculous stats to pull off. But don't worry about that, you have the ridiculous stats needed to pull it off. Happy Smiting!

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Realy liked your answer, though bonus section is out of the scope of the question (since he explicitly asked for vengeance paladin build). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 15, 2018 at 10:43
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Paladin 6/Hexblade 5,6,7

Using Hunter's Mark, Hexblade's Curse and your Warlock slots for smites you are causing 10d8+2d6+24 damage (average 76) by level 11 with the duelling style and a long sword. It's only for two hits per short rest but you still have 8d8+2d6+24 for 3 more hits and then 4 more 1st level slots. I prefer +2AC from a shield to a bit more damage from a great weapon

You are fighting with Charisma from Warlock 1 so max out Charisma first, but I would start Paladin to have a chain shirt and shield for 18AC to start and not go Warlock until you have your extra attack

You only need 15 STR to wear the best heavy armour

So at level 6 you should be Paladin 5 Warlock 1, next level is paladin to gain aura of protection, thereafter Warlock to give you ever more powerful smites:

The 1st level of Hexblade gives you Charisma based attacks and the curse that allows you to add your proficiency bonus to damage to one target per rest. If they die you regain hit points. Also you crit on 19 & 20.

4th level slots at level 13 gives you 2 smites of a cursed target with Hunter's mark at 12d8+2d6+26 total damage (40-134 average 87)

For Pact Boons I would probably go Pact of the Chain to get a familiar to Help you - giving you advantage on one of the attacks. That is for targets without the Vow of Enmity. Being a tiefling I am imagining an imp or quasit so you can bait the Wizard's 2nd rate familiar. Pact of the Blade doesn't really help much as the Thirsting Blade invocation doesn't stack with extra attack and the Eldritch Smite isn't as good as the Paladin's. The Improved Pact Weapon would give you a +1 weapon but advantage is much better as is the scouting and other utility benefits of the familiar.

Appropriate Invocations:

  • Gift of the Ever-Living Ones to maximise healing you receive
  • Relentless Hex -especially as a Mage Slayer
  • Choice at 5th Level Warlock: Maddening Hex to cause 5 damage your hexed target and any creature you choose within 5'

Stats(Ability Scores)

From 18,17,16,16,9,10
Str 16
Dex 16 or 10
Con 17
Int 10[9 +1 racial]
Wis 16 or 10
Cha 20 [18 + 2 racial]

Choose between DEX and WIS for the possibility of better initiative and the defensive duelist feat as 1st ASI (use a rapier instead of a longsword - you still fight with Charisma) or just being more perceptive. I would choose Dex and let the rogue or ranger tell you when trouble is coming.
2nd ASI is Resilient for a CON boost and save, Sentinel (for reaction attacks) or Lucky. Lucky makes some misses hit, and reaction attacks from Sentinel increase DPR.

Other feat choices are Mobile, Mage Slayer (good with the aura of protection), Inspiring Leader, Alert, Shield Master. Alternatively, buy a mount and get Mounted Combatant.

Paladin 5, Hexblade 6, Fighter 2

This build does significantly more damage than the one above at level 13 with an Action Surged Booming or Green Flame Blade.

Building from scratch:
Paladin 1,2 to get Duelling, Smite and armour proficiencies.
Warlock 1, to be fighting with Charisma and to get bonus damage and crits on 19. Also to have Hex and the Green Flame Blade and/or Booming Blade cantrips.
Fighter 1,2 to get a second fighting style (Defence or Protection), Second Wind and Action Surge.
Paladin 3,4,5 for the ASI, more Smite slots and Extra Attack. The Oath of Devotion gives you Sacred Weapon as your Channel Divinity option which adds your Charisma a second time to each attack for a minute. Hexblade 2,3,4,5,6 for the ASI, more invocations including Maddening Hex at Warlock 5 and the Accursed Spectre at Warlock 6

In terms of damage at level 13, assuming you have spent a round setting up your Channel Divinity(action), Hexblade's Curse(bonus) and Hex(bonus) with your first attacks, and you have hit(!) 4 times with action surge, you cause to your cursed target: (1d8+1d6(Hex)+5+2+5)×4(base) +4d8 x2(3rd lvl Smite) +3d8(2nd lvl Smite) +5(Maddening Hex); to anyone you choose within 5': +5(Maddening Hex);
Finally have your spectre attack for +3d6

Total damage 18d8+7d6+53 = 78-239(av.158.5) with 5 more to to anyone you choose within 5'

Assuming a couple of the targets allies within 5' over 4 rounds the average drops to 128 damage per round having used all your slots for smites. Hmm, if only you were a sorcerer too and could generate more...

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  • \$\begingroup\$ There are a few mistakes in your calculations. First, Hex always takes a bonus action to cast. Second, Devotions Paladin's Chanel Divinity lets them add their CHA modifier to attack rolls, not damage rolls. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 31, 2018 at 23:00

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