# What happens if an encounter starts with both sides being stealthy? [closed]

At the beginning of an encounter, what happens if both sides are being stealthy?

• How can it be the beginning of the battle if both sides are being stealthy? – Anne Aunyme Jun 19 '17 at 13:23
• Could you clarify how an encounter has actually started in this situation? That both sides are being stealthy sounds like it ought to make this impossible, ie if both sides are maintaining stealth, neither would become aware of the other's existence and no encounter would occur. The way the encounter starts in this kind of situation would be informative. – doppelgreener Jun 19 '17 at 13:32
• this Q is related. I suggest that this question is a dupe of this question – KorvinStarmast Jun 19 '17 at 15:16
• @FesshawGalnodel, how did the encounter "start" if both sides are being stealthy? – godskook Jun 19 '17 at 16:55
• @AnneAunyme @dopplegreener @godskook Step 1 of Combat Step by Step in 5e is 1.Determine surprise. The DM determines whether anyone involved in the combat encounter is surprised. Seems like you are confusing start of hostilities with start of an encounter. – Wyrmwood Jun 19 '17 at 22:03