# Must a multiclassed caster use 2 different spellcasting focuses? [duplicate]

A sorcerer who multiclassed into a cleric originally used a crystal arcane focus, but as a cleric, they must cast using a holy symbol as their spellcasting focus. In order to cast the cleric spells, must the character swap focuses from the crystal to the symbol?

Bonus question: would a component pouch replace the need for both focuses or just the arcane one?

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• – coffee Jun 26 '17 at 15:18

## One pouch is enough, but one focus isn't

Relevant rules:

A character can use a component pouch or a spellcasting focus in place of the components specified for a spell. (Player's Handbook, page 203)

So far, no restriction on which focus a character can use on which spell. However, both classes state that their focus is valid for the specific class's spells only:

You can use a holy symbol (found in chapter 5) as a spellcasting focus for your cleric spells. (Player's Handbook, page 58)

You can use an arcane focus (found in chapter 5) as a spellcasting focus for your sorcerer spells. (Player's Handbook, page 101)

And even explicitly stated in the multiclassing rules:

...a spellcasting focus, such as a holy symbol, can be used only for the spells from the class associated with that focus. (Player's Handbook, page 164)

Note that association, here, refers to which class you learned the spell from, not the class spell lists. If you prepare a spell as a Cleric spell, you can't use an Arcane focus to cast it, even if the spell is on the Sorcerer spell list.

This makes the component pouch a better option for a multiclassed character going for flexibility, as it can always provide the simple (ones without a marked cost) material components for a spell regardless of its class.

• Just curious, but what if you have your holy symbol inlaid upon your arcane focus? Holy symbol states "must hold it in hand, wear it visibly, or bear it on a shield" I understand RAW for the class you must use that particular focus (be it Druidic, Arcane or Holy Symbol) but is there RAW that states that they can or can't be the same 'item' It's not too farfetched to have an Arcane Focus rod depicting Holy Symbol markings, or say a Druidic focus staff with an Arcane focus orb/crystal at the top. – John Grabanski Jun 26 '17 at 14:47
• @JohnGrabanski I would say, by default, that the two items have to be separate, as they are listed as separate objects on the item description page (PHB 151). However, it's not a huge stretch to assume a symbol that works when engraved upon a shield works when engraved on a staff as well. I would still say "no", but with a healthy dose of "unless your GM thinks that's cool". – kviiri Jun 26 '17 at 14:58

According to entries in the class descriptions:

You can use a holy symbol [..] as a spellcasting focus for your cleric spells. (PHB 58)

You can use an arcane focus [..] as a spellcasting focus for your sorcerer spells. (PHB 101)

If you cast a spell you know from a certain class, you can only use a focus appropriate to that class.

...a spellcasting focus, such as a holy symbol, can be used only for the spells from the class associated with that focus. (Player's Handbook, page 164)

While this quote shows, that you can not use one focus for two classes, it might still be possible (meaning ask your GM) to have a short staff with two foci attached to the ends. That way you can always hold the one you need right now without having to put one away and retrieve the other.

• o: holy symbol
• @: crystal arcane focus
• =: wood and/or metal
• o==@ double focus