Looking over the items I'm going to want for my character, I find myself wanting two neck slot items (an Amulet of Mighty Fists and a Necklace of Ki Serenity).

The Hand of Glory allows a character to wear an extra ring by taking up third neck slot, are there any other items that exchange what slot can be used where? (Hopefully one to let me wear more than one necklace at a time?)


There are a few magic items that will use a slot different than normal, to name a few:

  • The Hand of Glory allows you to use an extra ring on your neck slot.
  • The Ten-Ring Sword also grants an extra ring slot.
  • The Roc Rider Badge uses the neck slot on large or huge creatures but takes the body slot of medium and small creatures.
  • The Shrunken Head can be held on one hand or worn on your neck slot.
  • The Talisman of True Faith normally takes the neck slot but will free the slot if used as your holy symbol.
  • The Folding Plate is an armor that you can turn into a brooch that occupies the neck slot and will free your armor slot.
  • The Starfaring Robes is a body slot item that will offer you the effects of a Necklace of Adaptation, which would take a neck slot.
  • The Stinging Stilleto can be used either as necklace or ring and will transform into a dagger at the wearer's command.

But no, there are no magic items that will grant you an extra neck slot.

Non-humanoid creatures have access to the Extra Item Slot feat, that grants an additional magic item slot. But this would only help you if you had no neck slot, since the feat can only grant you a slot that you don't have already.

Another option would be to use a Magical Tattoo, which can be also placed on your neck but does not take up your neck slot. Or even take a look on the available Ioun Stones to check if the effect you want is not already covered by one of them.

Considering you are trying to obtain extra ki using the Necklace of Ki Serenity, you should take a look at the Ring of Ki Mastery, which allows you to store up to 2 ki points for later use and reduces the ki points used by ki abilities.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Does having an extra head mean you have an additional neck slot? \$\endgroup\$ – Thomas Jacobs Nov 14 '17 at 13:06
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    \$\begingroup\$ raw no, unless you have some racial ability saying so. If you have extra arms (for rings) or extra heads (for necklaces), you need the Extra Item Slot feat to benefit from it. Kasatha (four-armed humanoids) still only have 2 ring slots. \$\endgroup\$ – ShadowKras Nov 14 '17 at 13:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ I might be getting it wrong, but reading the Extra Item Slot feat suggests that you use it to get slots that you otherwise don't have, so you can't use it to get more of the same slots. Or am I misinterpreting this? \$\endgroup\$ – Thomas Jacobs Nov 14 '17 at 13:59
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ThomasJacobs that is exactly what I said on my answer. My kasatha example wasn't inteded so you can use Extra Item Slot as a kasatha (they are humanoid, so automatically ruled out from the feat), but to explain that extra limbs do not mean extra slots automatically. \$\endgroup\$ – ShadowKras Nov 14 '17 at 14:08

You can combine items into a single item. The item-creation guidelines generally recommend that effects after the first (most expensive) should cost 50% more than normal. So for an amulet of mighty fists that is also a necklace of ki serenity, which one is most expensive depends on the enhancement bonus of the amulet of mighty fists: +1, and the amulet is cheaper, +3, +4, or +5 and the amulet is more expensive (they are tied at +2).

So we end up with this:

Amulet of mighty fists
enhancement bonus
Amulet of mighty fists
Necklace of ki serenity
+1 4,000 gp × 150% 16,000 gp 22,000 gp
+2 16,000 gp × 150% 16,000 gp 40,000 gp
+3 36,000 gp 16,000 gp × 150% 60,000 gp
+4 64,000 gp 16,000 gp × 150% 88,000 gp
+5 100,000 gp 16,000 gp × 150% 124,000 gp

And the combined item uses a single neck slot.

However, that cost is preposterous: both amulet of mighty fists and necklace of ki serenity are rather overpriced for what they do in the first place, and the 50% premium is just adding insult to injury—there are cases where it’s appropriate, maybe, but this isn’t one of them. So I would just ask your GM for a houserule, either reducing the price of amulet of mighty fists, necklace of ki serenity, or both, eliminating the 50% premium for combining, allowing those effects on items in different item slots, or something along those lines. If your GM won’t allow that, I strongly suggest giving up on the necklace of ki serenity; it isn’t that good. Actually, I’d strongly reconsider going for any kind of unarmed build—unarmed strikes are woefully underpowered, and if your GM isn’t willing to work with you to fix that, my opinion is that it’s a needlessly painful process to try to fight Pathfinder on it.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Mighty Fists is indeed overrated. Its not that good. \$\endgroup\$ – ShadowKras Nov 14 '17 at 16:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ I mostly wanted to get the amulet of mighty fists as a way to get the numerical bonuses to my unarmed attacks \$\endgroup\$ – Cyberson Nov 14 '17 at 19:10
  • \$\begingroup\$ Also, are the Unchained Monk's unarmed attacks still way underpowered? Because with the damage scaling they get, wouldn't that make them better at melee dpr? \$\endgroup\$ – Cyberson Nov 14 '17 at 19:12
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Cyberson We have a Q&A about unchained monk for your perusal. Ultimately, the unchained monk has even less need for amulet of mighty fists than the chained one—but arguably more need for necklace of ki serenity (still grossly overpriced for just 2 ki though). \$\endgroup\$ – KRyan Nov 14 '17 at 19:23

Ten-Ring Sword (Ultimate Equipment p. 162) gives you an extra ring slot.

I haven't seen anything in Pathfinder that gives an extra neck slot. Short of growing an extra head, your best bet might just be to work around the restriction via custom crafting, e.g.:

  • Make an item that doesn't take up a slot at all: 2x normal price. (Pathfinder CRB p. 550, table 15-29)
  • Add a second ability to a slotted item: 1.5x normal price of that ability. (Note that for ring abilities less than 16k GP standard price, that extra 50% is cheaper than spending 8k on a Hand of Glory, and it doesn't use up a neck slot!)
  • Make an item that has the same ability but uses a different slot: as far as I know, this doesn't change the cost. (I think D&D 3.x had different types of ability associated with different slots, and imposed a penalty for "belt of Charisma" type items, but AFAIK Pathfinder doesn't have any such rule?)
  • \$\begingroup\$ As far as I remember (I don't have books right now) Pathfinder has rule that is both more relaxed and more strict: DM decides if item makes enough sense to be made. If it does not, then it does not. Thus, still no "belt of charisma" and using Craft Wondrous Item to make anything under different slot. \$\endgroup\$ – Mołot Nov 14 '17 at 14:54

Your options depend on your GM more than the rules as written when it comes to this, given that no such items exist. Even with custom magic item crafting, a mechanic built into the game, the GM has the final say on whether an item is broken or not. Here's the options that you would have to work out with your GM if you want those two items.

Option 1: Re-Slotted Item

If your GM is fully supportive of custom magic item crafting taken to its extreme within RAW and your character doesn't need one of their other slots (perhaps ring, chest, or head, depending on your build) and you have access to a magic item crafter (I'm assuming you can't craft this on your own), then you could simply hire the crafter to craft an item with the same properties as one of those two items in a different slot. As a GM, I could see the Wrists slot being a reasonable substitute for the Amulet of Mighty Fists, given that it would clash with the Bracers of Armor, just as the classic conflict for a Monk's Neck slot would be Amulet of Mighty Fists vs. Amulet of Natural Armor.

Option 2: Combined Effects

If your GM is familiar with some of the shenanigans that can be pulled via Craft Wondrous Item, he might disallow changing the slot, as is recommended by the rules for magical item crafting. You could have the abilities of one item crafted into the other, which is allowable under RAW and provided for under magical item crafting. As a GM, I'd be okay with this, due to the extremely high gold costs involved, which limits your resources that can be used for other magic items.

Option 3: Un-Slotted Item

Similar to Ioun Stones, you might be able to make a "charm" of some kind that lets you have both effects. An easy option would be a magical tattoo that grants you the full benefit of one item or the other. More expensive than even combined effects, but still possible.

Option 4: Pseudo Hand of Glory

It's possible that your GM would rather let you craft a custom magic item that allows you to substitute one slot for a neck slot, similar to to the Hand of Glory. You could theoretically have one crafted, but this is the likely option for GMs who don't like magic item crafting but are willing to work with their players to make sure they get the items they need. As a GM, trading one slot for another is an established precedent in the game, with the most common slots traded around being ring, body, and neck, so this also seems reasonable, assuming the other slot is a ring or the body.

Option 5: Pick One

Sometimes, GMs don't allow custom magic items, either by your hand or theirs. If this is the case, hopefully they're fair about it and aren't lowering the hammer on your dreams but letting someone else have their unique doodad.


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