# Arcane Ward and vampire bite

A vampire's bite action deals piercing and necrotic damage to a target. It also has this effect (Monster Manual, p.297):

The target's hit point maximum is reduced by an amout equal to the necrotic damage taken, and the vampire regains hit points equal to that amount.

Now suppose a vampire bites an abjuration wizard with Arcane Ward up. According to the rules for Arcane Ward (Player's Handbook, p.115),

Whenever you take damage, the ward takes the damage instead. If this damage reduces the ward to 0 hit points, you take any remaining damage.

So what happens? Even if the ward ends up taking part or all the necrotic damage, does the wizard's hit point maximum get reduced regardless?

The target's hit point maximum is reduced by an amout equal to the necrotic damage taken

The damage taken is that after the ward has been overcome.

• While I believe this is the correct answer, I feel it would be improved by being slightly more verbose. Dec 10, 2017 at 4:54
• So, just to clarify: the wizard's hit point max is not reduced until Mr Bitey McBiterson chews through the Arcane Ward and the wizard actually takes necrotic damage. Which is unlike the case for temp hp made here. Oct 5, 2022 at 3:30

If the DM wants to be stricter, he could rule that the piercing damage is applied first, and the necrotic second, since the bite comes before the blood drain. The other option is to apportion the two types mathematically proportionally. Either way, the necrotic damage actually taken by the victim after the Arcane Ward is exhausted is what counts here. The wizard's maximum HP is reduced by that amount, and the vampire's HP increased by that amount, of the necrotic damage actually taken.

Alright, now come in my rule-reading skills acquired at playing MtG, as I heard quite many rule facets are to be read similarly in DnD5e.

Note: For simplicity, I refer to the wizard having Arcane Ward up as "you", assuming it's your character.

As you quote:

Whenever you take damage, the ward takes the damage instead.

In MtG, that means an effect change. That would override all occurrences of "target" with the ward. In DnD5e, that should translate into that for the purpose of the damage it absorbs, the ward is treated as the target.

Now let's reflect on what exactly that means. First off, you can only have your maximum hitpoints reduced by the damage that actually reaches you - for the damage taken by the ward, you're not the target.

The other results depend on how your DM handles the vampire bite. As I learned, the ward has no blood (should have been obvious to me since it's conjured), and most commonly it's a mere effect that isn't alive, however it can also be regarded as something akin to a conjured spirit, thus having something similar to life energy. Therefore, if the vampire bite is restricted to actual blood in-universe, it doesn't have any effect on the ward's life energy (if it has some in the scenario), thus its maximum hitpoints remain unchanged no matter what, and the vampire only regenerates on damage it dealt to you.

However, we're in a highly magical universe with DnD5e, and it wouldn't be much of a stretch by your DM to rule that vampires can drain something such abstract as life essence. That doesn't change much if the ward is treated as effect, since it then has no life essence anyway.

If, however, your DM also goes for the "conjured spirit" version, things look much different on that regard:

Situation 1: The ward takes all the necrotic damage and remains alive. In that case, it has a reduced hitpoint maximum afterwards.

As @PhilBoncer pointed out in the comments, the ward has a regular hitpoint maximum. That means, abjuration spells can only heal it up to the new hitpoint maximum from this point on. All effects based on the maximum hitpoints of entities, obviously including ones that refer to arcane entities, are affected as well.

Situation 2: The ward takes the full damage and dies from it. In this case, the ward's reduced hitpoint maximum can only have an impact on effects that trigger as it dies and depend on the hitpoint maximum of the entity that died.

Situation 3: The ward only takes part of the damage before it dies. Regarding the ward and effects that has an impact on, this is no different from situation 2. However, as the ward is considered the target regarding the damage it absorbs and you are considered the target regarding the remaining damage, the effect actually has more than one target, which might have an influence on abilities the vampire might have that trigger based on getting a target. If, for example, the vampire has an ability that heals 1HP of an ally of his choice every time an effect of himself, his equipment, or his actions targets an entity, because of targeting 2 entities separately, this would result into healing 2HP distributed among the vampire's allies as he chooses. That is, if your DM handles targeting that way and doesn't group the two targets into one "event of targeting".

In all three situations, the vampire would recover all of the necrotic damage dealt to you and the ward on a total.

• I would advise that you investigate Arcane Ward, and modify this answer to be compatible with it. Dec 10, 2017 at 15:34
• @PhilBoncer I'll probably do that at some point. For now, the correct way it works should be among the possibilities I listed. Dec 10, 2017 at 15:51
• Well, no. The nature of the Arcane Ward is critical to getting the right answer. The Arcane Ward is not a creature that takes different types of damage, or can be drained of blood. If the vampire bites a stone, which has AC and HP, he does not reduce the maximum HP of the stone, nor does he gain HP from it. None of your bulletpoint cases are correct for the Arcane Ward. It does have a maximum, but healing is not a valid method of restoring it; it can be recharged slowly by the use of casting abjuration spells, which is a different case than any you've listed. Dec 10, 2017 at 16:00
• @PhilBoncer Currently editing to reflect your points. Not quite understanding the "doesn't take different types of damage" bit though. For now, I'll treat it like it does differentiate between different damage types in the case I describe. Dec 10, 2017 at 17:31
• I think you still have missed the nature of the Arcane Ward. It isn't alive; it's a magical effect. So it doesn't "live" or "die" or have any "life energy" to drain. Dec 11, 2017 at 5:49