If I crit. while using a Frostbrand's close blast encounter power, do I add in the "crit per plus" of d8 as well? Even though it wasn't used as a melee attack?


By RAW, probably not.

The encounter power for a Frost Brand Weapon does not include the Weapon or Implement keywords. This will prevent a lot of feats and abilities from affecting this attack. I don't think it is RAW to allow the critical bonus damage from Frost Brand Weapons when using its attack power. Generally you only include weapon/implement bonuses & properties in an attack if the attack includes the appropriate keyword.

As a DM I'd probably allow it though (since the weapon is clearly being used in the attack despite the lack of keywords - I still wouldn't allow its properties to be used for the normal attack and damage bonuses though).

  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm sure this must come up with many items? I'm curious what the RAW is, and cannot find it. \$\endgroup\$
    – David Igoe
    Apr 5 '18 at 21:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ @DavidIgoe As Nick explained, if a power does not have the Weapon keyword, it does not get any bonuses from your weapon's enchantment, including attack, damage, and critical damage. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 5 '18 at 21:29
  • \$\begingroup\$ Well, if the power includes the implement keyword and you can use the weapon as an implement then it gets the bonuses too (that's why I discussed both keywords). \$\endgroup\$
    – Nick Brown
    Apr 6 '18 at 12:44

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