# Attacking a target in dim light, from darkness, at great distance

Character A is in Darkness with no Darkvision

Character B is in Dim Light a hundred feet away from A

For further context, an ascii board (dashes indicate dimly lit area):

                    -B-----
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A               ------L------
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|        100 ft        |


# Are any penalties imposed on A's Ranged Attacks?

I've been looking around, and the closest thing I can find is this: How far away can you see light? which tells me that Character A can definitely clearly see the light source.

Does this mean that they can also see the dimly lit character just fine, and make attacks as normal (provided their weapon is in range)?

In that case, does this mean that (not only can they attack without penalty) but they get advantage on their attacks due to being hidden by darkness?

• Good question, and it highlights an excellent tactic. One request: since it will change the answer to this question, you should mention whether character B can see further than 100 feet in the dark (for example, like a Drow Elf can). Most of the answers here assume that Character B has a darkvision range of 60 feet, or no darkvision at all. Could you confirm that in your question? Apr 8 '18 at 20:43
• I really like your "pool of light" illustration. Nice work. Apr 9 '18 at 0:11
• Just thinking about this from a "logical" or "realistic" perspective, it makes sense that you should be able to make the attack and do so "with advantage" (e.g. w/o the enemy realizing or being able to react to defend themselves correctly). You're presumably a skilled archer, you know how to draw your bow and aim just by feel even if you can't see the bow or arrow itself. Fact is you can see your target (and can see the tip of your arrow and bow itself just by how it blocks the light you can see). That should be enough, no?
– Doc
Apr 9 '18 at 4:35

[Note that the interaction darkness-->obscured-->blinded was subject to an erratum; if your PHB is an early printing this answer may look contrary to your rules.]

When you are in darkness someone trying to see you is "effectively blinded" but you are not (PHB p.183, "Vision and Light," errata'ed). Since you are unseen your attack roll has advantage (PHB p.195, "Unseen Attackers and Targets"). But your attack roll against your target--who is lightly obscured--is not affected (PHB p.183, "Vision and Light").

Therefore you attack with advantage. Yay!

(You ask if "they can also see the dimly lit character just fine, and make attacks as normal? " Attacks are normal, but they don't actually see the dimly-lit character "just fine": their perception checks into the dimly-lit area would be disadvantaged, per "Vision and Light.")

• Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation about whether dim light should impose disadvantage on attacks has been moved to chat.
– nitsua60
Apr 8 '18 at 16:48

# If B cannot see A, A can attack B at advantage

### A can see B

A is in darkness which means that they suffer the blinded condition only when trying to see anything only in the darkness around them per the definition of darkness which creates a heavily obscured area.

Darkness creates a heavily obscured area. (PHB 183)

A heavily obscured area—such as darkness, opaque fog, or dense foliage—blocks vision entirely. A creature effectively suffers from the blinded condition when trying to see something in that area. (PHB 183)

Since B is not in darkness but is in dim light, A can see B. Here is what the DMG has to say about the limits of vision:

When traveling outdoors, characters can see about 2 miles in any direction on a clear day, or until the point where trees, hills, or other obstructions block their view. Rain normally cuts maximum visibility down to 1 mile, and fog can cut it down to between 100 and 300 feet.

So as long as there is a light source and sight has not been blocked by anything, A should have no issue seeing B even at great distances.

### If B cannot see A

If B does not have darkvision beyond 60 feet or does not have it at all, then B cannot see A standing in darkness.

A is standing in darkness, thus B (who has no darkvision) cannot see them.

Since A can see B but B cannot see A, when A attacks their attack will follow the rule for "Unseen Attackers and Targets":

When a creature can't see you, you have advantage on attack rolls against it. (PHB 195)