I am trying to pit a party against a powerful, epic-leveled Goliath Barbarian, using the abilities he would have as a player character. I do not want to make him too powerful, but I still want him to reflect the epic status he is supposed to hold.

Are there guidelines for how to calculate this challenge rating?


  • I'm not horribly interested in frame challenges here, unless there's a really good reason for it. This is a casual one-shot for my family, not an AL public game.
  • The party will be from 4-7 people, all at level 3. One of them (my dad) played in college, so several editions ago, and other than that, there's very little experience with the game. I don't know how useful this is to answerers, but my goal is definitely to err on the side of easier, rather than harder, because of their lack of experience.
  • For those familiar with it, I'm going to be using the Tal'dorei setting (specifically Whitestone during Winter's Crest) and pitting the party in a recreational fight against Grog.
  • Despite all of the specifics, I would love to get my hands on a formula that I can use in the future.
  • \$\begingroup\$ What do you mean by "epic-levelled"? \$\endgroup\$
    – Miniman
    Commented Nov 19, 2018 at 22:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ Oops, I swear I searched for similar questions before posting this. Thanks for the link! \$\endgroup\$
    – Cooper
    Commented Nov 19, 2018 at 22:29
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    \$\begingroup\$ @L.S.Cooper It's not an easy one to find, apparently: we have several duplicates of it! The more we have, the easier it gets to find though, so thank you for the new wording to help future searchers. :) \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 19, 2018 at 22:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ @SevenSidedDie For some reason it didn't turn up on any searches about challenge rating-- I think because it refers mostly to XP, maybe? I always do milestone and tend to forget all about XP as a thing. \$\endgroup\$
    – Cooper
    Commented Nov 19, 2018 at 23:29


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