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I'm making a character, and this part always had me confused, so a friend helped me but never explained.

When you do your weapon damage, like 1d12 + 4, you use your Strength modifier for the damage bonus of 4. But what ability do you use for javelins - is it Dexterity or Strength?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ BTW, you don't always use strength for weapon damage, as you said in the question. It is strength or dexterity based on the weapon. \$\endgroup\$ – Justin Mar 11 at 13:26
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You use strength

This is spelled out in the Basic Rules where it describes the Thrown weapon property (emphasis mine):

If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon.

The modifier you use for a melee attack with a javelin is strength (can also be found in the Basic Rules in the Combat section):

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength

Since you would have been making a melee weapon attack with Strength, the Thrown property causes you to continue to use Strength, even though it's a ranged attack in this instance.

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    \$\begingroup\$ @Vylix I'm more worried that a person may not know where to find the rule for what to use with a melee attack in general. I added a clarifying paragraph instead, \$\endgroup\$ – David Coffron Mar 11 at 1:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ It took us a few months into our 5e sessions in 2014 to grok that the jav used str for damage and hit boost. Not an uncommon issue when coming from other editions. \$\endgroup\$ – KorvinStarmast Mar 11 at 1:28
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KorvinStarmast which editions used Dex for javelins? \$\endgroup\$ – András Mar 11 at 6:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ 3e/3.5/Pathfinder all used Dex for to-hit with all ranged attacks (I think one of them had a feat allowing you to use Str for to-hit with thrown weapons specifically), I think 4e did as well but my 4e experience is pretty limited. They used Str for damage for thrown weapons (and composite bows) but Dex to hit... \$\endgroup\$ – gatherer818 Mar 11 at 8:44
  • \$\begingroup\$ @András In the original game there was a +1 to hit for missile weapons with a 13+ dex. The details varied with editions, see gatherer's comment. \$\endgroup\$ – KorvinStarmast Mar 11 at 15:28
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Javelins use Strength.

Basically, Strength is the ability you use for calculating hit/damage, unless otherwise specified. For example, the Monk can use their Strength, or Dexterity, as they see fit:

You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.

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Or the finesse property, again allows you to use Strength, or Dex (the dagger, and darts have this property, for example):

Finesse. When making an attack with a finesse weapon, you use your choice of your Strength or Dexterity modifier for the attack and damage rolls. You must use the same modifier for both rolls.

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The important thing to differentiate is that Ranged weapons use Dex, and Thrown weapons use Strength (unless they have the "Finesse" property, as explained above).

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