A sequel to this question, where I apparently missed the fact that Prestige Paladin has Turn Undead as a prerequisite. So how about it: are there any ranger variants, ACFs, feats, races, or anything else that can give a ranger Turn Undead? Bonus points for pulling it off by 5th or 6th level.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I suppose you mean without multiclassing, right? \$\endgroup\$ May 22, 2019 at 10:14
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ This question can be narrowed substantially by referencing this question. \$\endgroup\$ May 22, 2019 at 11:43

1 Answer 1


No variant ranger or ranger alternative class feature grants a ranger turn undead. (The variant ranger wild defender (Dragon #324 95) at level 6 gains the supernatural ability rebuke nature allowing the wild defender to rebuke and command animals and, at higher levels, vermin, plants, fey, oozes, and elementals… but never undead.)

Anyone who meets the feats' easy prerequisites can take the feats God Touched and Divine Channeler (both Dragon #305 42) then 1/day turn undead. This is not an efficient use of feats, but it is, so far as I'm aware, the only feat-based way to turn undead.

(Even the Catalogues of Enlightenment—accessible via the feat Planar Touchstone (Magic of Incarnum 207)—for all that the planar site can otherwise do still can't grant the ability to turn undead: the granted power of the domain Sun (Player's Handbook 188), for example, says that it's great turning replaces a normal turn undead attempt.)

Besides using the rules for Items that Grant Feats (Arms and Equipment Guide 128) to create an original magic item that grants the feat Divine Channeler—such an item having a price between 15,000 and 20,000 gp according to the guidelines—, I know of no way to have a magic item grant the ability to turn undead.

In the game's vast collection of monsters, there's probably a creature that can, as a racial ability, turn undead. I am, however, unaware of such a creature and I suspect that were such a creature to possess a suitably acceptable level adjustment of +0 or +1 or maybe even in a desperate case +2 that I would've heard of such a creature. Nonetheless, I'm investigating, but I look forward to answers that can confirm or deny the existence of such a creature.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Even beyond the playable and/or viable LA’s, Metamorphic Transfer, Assume Supernatural Ability, and/or shapechange mean one could potentially turn into a creature with turn undead, if one exists. (Then again, manipulate form means a ranger could just, you know, be given turn undead for funsies.) \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    May 22, 2019 at 18:08
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KRyan Chances are, though, if you're using shapechange to get turn undead, you're not doing it by 5th or 6th level. So no bonus points for you! :-) \$\endgroup\$ May 22, 2019 at 18:21
  • \$\begingroup\$ @fectin (There must be an easier way—necropolitan and the feat Momentary Alteration?) K makes a good case for the umbrella term claim in his Handbook, and I agree that turn undead in a vast majority of cases means turn or rebuke undead, but allowing the prestige paladin special requirement Ability to turn undead to be satisfied by the brain in a jar's supernatural ability rebuke undead seems way too contrary to what I perceive as the prestige class's intent. I mean, at my table I would allow it, but I wouldn't recommend everyone allow it! \$\endgroup\$ May 24, 2019 at 16:59
  • \$\begingroup\$ The Susurrus, from MMIII, can Rebuke Undead (kinda). However, it is mostly unsuited for being a player character. Also, apparently in previous editions they were plants, which is way cooler than their current status as crystal-y aberrations. \$\endgroup\$
    – Elliot
    Jul 1, 2020 at 9:09

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .