The Hunter Ranger's Whirlwind Attack feature states:

You can use your action to make a melee attack against any number of creatures within 5 feet of you, with a separate attack roll for each target.

It does not specify that the attack needs to me a melee weapon attack but only that it must be a melee attack. Does this mean that you would be able to cast a spell such as inflict wounds if you multi-classed into a class with this spell or if you took the Magic Initiate feat and chose to learn the shocking grasp spell?

I am aware that Whirlwind Attack does not actually count as taking the Attack action; However, clearly you can make a melee weapon attack with this feature, an option that ordinarily would require the "Attack action". So why could you not also make a melee spell attack, an option that ordinarily would require the "Cast a Spell action"?

I would like answers to assume that the following ruling made in the Sage Advice Compendium is correct:

Whirlwind Attack is unusual, in that it’s a single attack with multiple attack rolls...

  • \$\begingroup\$ Related: "Can I use a spell to make an Opportunity Attack?" \$\endgroup\$ Aug 20, 2019 at 12:22
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hm, I found a way to get access to a ranged spell attack that specifically works with the Attack action: the Radiant Sun Bolt option from the Sun Soul Monk. I'm going to ask a related question. EDIT: nvm it won't really matter, since Volley does require a weapon. \$\endgroup\$
    – Erik
    Aug 20, 2019 at 13:43

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You can use your action to make a melee attack...

Whirlwind Attack is an action you can take. If you're taking the Whirlwind Attack action, you're not able to also take the Cast a spell action. You're also not getting any extra attacks if you have the Extra Attack feature, because you're not taking the Attack action.

Based on your questions and answers, you seem to be confused on the difference between Actions and things you do as part of an action. When Whirlwind Attacks says "make a melee attack", that is all you do, you make a melee attack. That does not mean you get to look through other actions such as "Cast a spell" or the "Attack action" for the words "make an attack" and then perform that action at the same time.

The path goes:

You: I want to take a whirlwind attack action

DM: Ok,make a melee attack roll against those 3 enemies

You: -Discuss results of rolls with DM and go from there.

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    \$\begingroup\$ So, is it implied, though not specified, that a "melee attack" in this context is a "melee [weapon] attack"? \$\endgroup\$
    – StackLloyd
    Aug 20, 2019 at 16:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ @StackLloyd no, but it is limited to generic attacks you have, which are usually just from weapons. If you had a spell attack that worked with the Attack action (like Radiant Sun Bolt) you could use it (except it's a ranged attack) \$\endgroup\$
    – Erik
    Aug 20, 2019 at 20:34
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Erik Then, if "melee attack" here doesn't necessarily mean "melee [weapon/unarmed strike] attack", could you attack with a fiery blade you previously summoned by casting Flame Blade, as Someone_Evil's answer points out? It all goes down to what exactly "melee attack" is. Otherwise, it's just ambiguous and unclear. \$\endgroup\$
    – StackLloyd
    Aug 21, 2019 at 7:35
  • \$\begingroup\$ @StackLloyd somewhat contested, but probably not because the fiery blade only says you can use it to attack "as an action", so it wouldn't work for opportunity attacks or whirlwind attack or Extra attack. But if your DM allows you to treat it like a regular weapon, it'd work (for all three) \$\endgroup\$
    – Erik
    Aug 21, 2019 at 7:38
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Erik I understand, so the point with Flame Blade et simila is that it explicitly says "as an action", which you are already using for Whirlwind Attack. I don't know about spells that, once casted, grant uses of a "melee attack" in subsequent turns without mentioning an action or a bonus action, but if there were such spells, then I guess they would work. \$\endgroup\$
    – StackLloyd
    Aug 21, 2019 at 7:57

You might with certain spells

Whirlwind attack requires you to take its special action to make a bunch of melee attacks. This locks you out of using the Cast a Spell action. However, you might be able to use a melee spell attack, if you have a to make such without taking the Cast a Spell action.

Ok, now we need a bit of a detour. Part of the Sage Advice answer to "Can you use a melee spell attack to make an opportunity attack?" includes the ruling that:

A few monsters can make opportunity attacks with melee spell attacks. Here’s how: certain monsters—including the banshee, the lich, and the specter—have a melee spell attack that isn’t delivered by a spell. For example, the banshee’s Corrupting Touch action is a melee spell attack but no spell is cast to make it. The banshee can, therefore, make opportunity attacks with Corrupting Touch.

Thus, a non-casting melee spell attack "action" can be used when a feature (such as the general rule on opportunity attacks) calls for an attack. Whirlwind similarly to opportunity attacks lets you make a melee attack as part of something else (ie. its special action vs. opportunity attacks reaction).

So now we just need to get ourselves an action which lets us make a melee spell attack:

  • Flame blade (2nd level Druid spell).

    You can use your action to make a melee spell attack with the fiery blade. On a hit, the target takes 3d6 fire damage.

  • Vampiric Touch (3rd level Warlock/Wizard spell).

    Until the spell ends, you can make the [melee spell] attack again on each of your turns as an action.

Both of these spells grant an action-option which is equivalent to the banshee's Corrupting Touch.

Alternately you could shapechange (let's not worry about how you get to cast it) into something with a melee spell action action. You would still have Whirlwind as shapechange includes:

You retain the benefit of any features from your class, race, or other source and can use them, provided that your new form is physically capable of doing so.

However, shapechange doesn't let you take the form of an undead (nor constucts for that matter) so the examples from SA are out. There are fortunately other monsters with such actions, including:

  • \$\begingroup\$ @Medix2 True ploymorph doesn't have a clause letting you retain features, meaning you don't get to keep Whirlwind (rather defeating the exercise) \$\endgroup\$
    – Someone_Evil
    Aug 20, 2019 at 14:55
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    \$\begingroup\$ I'm not sure if your examples work; I think neither Flame Blade nor Vampiric Touch would work as opportunity attacks or with Extra Attack, because they let you "spend an action to do a thing", they don't grant you an extra attack option. \$\endgroup\$
    – Erik
    Aug 20, 2019 at 20:32

Following the precedent of the Sage Advice Compendium, Whirlwind Attack will not allow you to make a melee spell attack

The section on Melee Attacks states:

A melee attack typically uses a handheld weapon such as a sword, a warhammer, or an axe. A typical monster makes a melee attack when it strikes with its claws, horns, teeth, tentacles, or other body part. A few spells also involve making a melee attack.

Thus we do know that certain spells are indeed considered melee attacks and so it would seem Whirlwind Attack would let us use them.
However, this is also the case if we were to look at the section on Opportunity Attacks which states:

You can make an opportunity attack when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach. To make the opportunity attack, you use your reaction to make one melee attack against the provoking creature.

It would seem we can use melee spell attacks for opportunity attacks; however, the Sage Advice Compendium has stated the following:

Q. Can you use a melee spell attack to make an opportunity attack?
A. You can’t if the spell attack is created by casting a spell. When a creature triggers an opportunity attack from you, you can use your reaction to make a melee attack against it. The opportunity attack doesn’t suddenly give you the ability to cast a spell, such as shocking grasp.

This is also showcased in this Q/A ("Can I use a spell to make an Opportunity Attack?").
Here we see the precedent set that even though opportunity attacks allow you to make a melee attack, they cannot be used to make melee spell attacks.
Following this logic we can conclude that even though the Whilrwind Attack feature allows us to make a melee attack, it cannot be used to make a melee spell attack.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I feel like this answer comes to the right conclusion the wrong way. The limiting factor is not that Whirlwind doesn't permit melee spell attacks. The reason you can't make a melee spell attack with whirlwind is because the whirlwind attack eats up your action. This locks you out of using that action to cast a spell or use an ongoing spell's ability to make a spell attack as an action (eg Flame Blade). \$\endgroup\$
    – Rykara
    Aug 20, 2019 at 23:07
  • \$\begingroup\$ Let us continue this discussion in chat. \$\endgroup\$
    – Rykara
    Aug 20, 2019 at 23:26

Technically Yes, but practically No.

Whirlwind Attack uses the phrase "make a melee attack". Note that this is the same wording as Opportunity Attack's "make one melee attack", and even the Attack action's "make one melee or ranged attack". It stands to reason that any melee attack you can make using the Attack action, you can also make using Opportunity Attacks or with the Whirlwind Attack action.

But what attacks can you make using the Attack action?

Technically, the rules are surprisingly silent on this.

We assume that we can use a weapon we are holding, but this is never actually stated in the rules. Grappling and Shoving are specifically called out as being possible using the Attack action. To me, this implies you can also make them using Whirlwind Attack, but it's not exactly clear if this is an exception or a clarification.

Let me ask you this: If a monster has an attack listed in its stat block under "Actions", can it use that attack as an Opportunity Attack? Can a Wolf use its claws against a fleeing opponent, potentially knocking them prone? I'm going to hazard a guess that most DMs rule that they can, without even considering the question.

Does it matter if the attack listed is a melee weapon attack or a melee spell attack? Can a Specter use its Life Drain attack as an opportunity attack? If a Specter was targeted by the Haste spell, could it use the additional Attack action to use Life Drain? If so, then a Specter that somehow uses Whirlwind Attack could indeed use Life Drain against multiple opponents.

According to the rules, there is no difference between a melee weapon attack and a melee spell attack for the purposes of the Attack action, nor Opportunity Attacks, nor Whirlwind Attack. If you can use one, you can use them all.

Therefore, a Hunter who has an unrestricted melee spell attack option (perhaps they have been Shapechanged into a Specter) can indeed use it with Whirlwind Attack, just as surely as they can use a held weapon.


That said, just because you can make an attack, doesn't mean you can perform an additional action that allows you to make that attack. Technically, ALL attacks require you to perform an action (or similar) to actually make the attack, so this isn't terribly helpful. However, I suspect that most DMs would not allow you to make the Cast a Spell action in the middle of the Attack action, therefore you would also not likely be able to cast Inflict Wounds as part of a Whirlwind Attack.

Vampiric Touch, on the other hand, is somewhat more reasonable to allow, as the spell effect grants you an attack that you can use on subsequent turns (the spell description does state that this attack requires an action, but like I said, ALL attacks require some kind of action, so if this is disallowed then as written you can't use a weapon either).

Hypothetically, if you use the Ready action to cast Inflict Wounds and hold the effect until the trigger occurs, you might then be considered to have the attack available, and could then Action Surge to use Whirlwind Attack with the readied attack from Inflict Wounds, but this would require a very specific interpretation of the rules that I suspect would not normally be allowed.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I think you might be confusing attacks with actions. If a ranger uses her action to use the whirlwind attack ability, she can't use it to cast a spell. If she uses her action to cast a spell (which grants a melee spell attack), that is an attack granted as part of the action used to cast the spell. The ranger isn't granted the ability to take a second action, and they need to take an action to use the whirlwind ability. \$\endgroup\$
    – Rykara
    Aug 20, 2019 at 20:08
  • \$\begingroup\$ I think this answer works up until the "however", but then it again confuses actions with an integrated attack with unrestricted attacks that can be slotted into "make an attack" effects. \$\endgroup\$
    – Erik
    Aug 20, 2019 at 20:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ My point is, there is no RAW list of attacks that you have available to use. All attacks require some kind of action or feature to grant you that attack. The Attack action lets you make "a melee or ranged attack", but it doesn't actually state what attacks you can choose from. Arguably, this means that you can only use attacks that specifically say they can be used with the Attack action (such as Grapple or Shove, or the Monk's Radiant Sun Bolt). Equipped weapons do not state that they grant you an attack option, so the vast majority of weapon attacks are already bending the rules anyway. \$\endgroup\$
    – Taxi4Dave
    Aug 23, 2019 at 11:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ To clarify, I am not arguing that you shouldn't be able to make basic weapon attacks. I am saying that the rules for weapon attacks are identical to the rules for any other kind of attack, and therefore if you allow one you should allow others, within reason. \$\endgroup\$
    – Taxi4Dave
    Aug 23, 2019 at 11:32

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