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True Seeing is a divination spell that states:

For the duration, the creature has truesight [...]

While Mind Blank states:

Until the spell ends, one willing creature you touch is immune to psychic damage, any effect that would sense its emotions or read its thoughts, divination spells, and the charmed condition. The spell even foils wish spells and spells or effects of similar power used to affect the target's mind or to gain information about the target.

Let's say that the Rogue had Invisibility and Mind Blank cast on him, and the Wizard cast True Seeing on himself. How do these spells interact?

The discussion at my table hinges on the fact that True Seeing doesn't target or affect the Mind Blanked rogue, so his immunity is not relevant. The Wizard would simply gain Truesight and would spot him. Is this correct?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ So is the question here what "being immune to Divination spells" means/entails? \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Aug 31, 2019 at 15:50
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Medix2 The broader question, I suppose so. But applied to my particular example :P \$\endgroup\$
    – BlueMoon93
    Aug 31, 2019 at 15:52
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    \$\begingroup\$ Related (essentially the same question but with Nondetection instead of Mind Blank): rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/80845/… \$\endgroup\$
    – Ryan C. Thompson
    Aug 31, 2019 at 16:08
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    \$\begingroup\$ Related (targeting is a mess): "What Counts as a target for a spell" \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Aug 31, 2019 at 16:26
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    \$\begingroup\$ I believe these questions are different due to different wording. One says you can't be targeted by spells, the other says you are immune to spells \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Aug 31, 2019 at 16:27

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Mind blank foils true seeing.

Mind blank states:

The spell even foils wish spells and spells or effects of similar power used to affect the target’s mind or to gain information about the target.

If true seeing is used to gain information (current position, appearance, etc.) about the target of mind blank, then it is foiled.

Usually you can see the target of mind blank because your eyes are not "spells or effects of similar power", but if the target is also invisible by some other means, then true seeing is foiled and the target remains invisible to you.

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    \$\begingroup\$ @Medix2 I'm not sure what you mean, firebolt doesn't reveal the location of the creature it hits \$\endgroup\$
    – Ruse
    Aug 31, 2019 at 22:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ If I hit a creature with firebolt I would know where it is. If I see a creature with true seeing I would know where it is. Just as you can see a creature, so too could you see where the firebolt stopped moving \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Aug 31, 2019 at 22:49
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Medix2 to target a creature with firebolt you need to know what space it is in, which allows you to shoot (with disadvantage if the target is invisible). Whether you hit or not, you don't gain any new information, so there is no interaction with mind blank. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ruse
    Sep 1, 2019 at 2:39
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yes it does have an interaction. You can aim a spell without knowing where a creature is, and fire in a random direction. If that spell hit an invisible creature you would thus gain the knowledge of where it is \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Sep 1, 2019 at 3:39
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    \$\begingroup\$ This can complement your answer, found it after the question was closed yesterday \$\endgroup\$
    – BlueMoon93
    Sep 1, 2019 at 9:44
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The wizard with true seeing can see the mind blanked rogue.

  • The spell true seeing was cast upon (and affects) the wizard not the rogue.

  • The rogue is immune to divination spells, which means divination spells cannot be successfully cast upon the rogue. From mind blank's write up "The spell even foils wish spells and spells or effects of similar power used to affect the target’s mind or to gain information about the target," but the true seeing targets the wizard (not the rogue), granting the wizard "the ability to see things as they actually are." and "For the duration, the creature has truesight..." From the PHB definition of truesight: "A creature with truesight can, out to a specific range, see in normal and magical darkness, see invisible creatures and objects..." Mind blank does not grant invisibility, and therefore does not prevent a mind blanked target from being seen by those with truesight.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ What do you think of the logic in this answer? \$\endgroup\$
    – Ryan C. Thompson
    Aug 31, 2019 at 16:07
  • \$\begingroup\$ @RyanThompson Thank you for the link! I think both the linked OP and the linked answer are playing loosey-goosey with the straightforward language of the rules (e.g., the spell true seeing targets the wizard, not the rogue), and I disagree with it. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lexible
    Sep 1, 2019 at 0:36
  • \$\begingroup\$ Supporting that this is what being immune to a divination spell means would help* \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Sep 1, 2019 at 4:43
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Medix2 Edited a bit. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lexible
    Sep 1, 2019 at 5:01
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    \$\begingroup\$ The uses "target" in the spell description are referring to the target of mind blank not a generic spell. It would've said "gain information about their target" if it meant all spells. Also you have not justified that "being immune to divination spells" means exactly "cannot be targeted by divination spells" which is the phrasing that nondetection uses which is discussed in this question: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/80845 \$\endgroup\$
    – Exempt-Medic
    Sep 1, 2019 at 13:10

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