Mastering the Koldunic sorcery school of the Way of Fire seems to come with an obvious drawback - seeing fire so often would probably do a lot of unpleasantness to the Cainite performing it. Is there a canon explanation to whether it would?

  • \$\begingroup\$ Is there a specific edition of VtM that you're interested in? I would guess V20, but clarifying may result in better answers. \$\endgroup\$ – Upper_Case Oct 2 '19 at 17:29
  • \$\begingroup\$ I've actually tagged this V5, but I'd be delighted to also hear the V20 one. Should I remove the tag? \$\endgroup\$ – Ivan T. Oct 2 '19 at 17:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hm, I don't see the V5 tag. But adding V20 as well as V5 might allow for answers from both (other users are more knowledgeable about tag best-practices than I am). \$\endgroup\$ – Upper_Case Oct 2 '19 at 17:31
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    \$\begingroup\$ So, the Kolduns and their magic haven't been brought to V5 yet; at this time, there's no answer in that edition, because the circumstance isn't there. No Tzimisce at all have been published so far. Cult of the Blood Gods may have more to say. \$\endgroup\$ – Jadasc Oct 2 '19 at 17:50
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Upper_Case Funny enough, I can't find the V20 tag anywhere in my previous questions about VtM. Did it get lost somewhere? \$\endgroup\$ – Ivan T. Oct 3 '19 at 6:48


I'm reading the question as do Way of Fire Koldunic sorcerers have access to any bonuses which directly make resisting Rötschrek easier?

A one-dot power available through the Way of Fire, called Fiery Courage, does this directly:

• Fiery Courage

No vampire can master an element he fears, so this power dims that fear to a mere ember of its former intensity.

System: Once learned, this power is permanent and requires no activation roll or blood. The koldun subtracts his rating in the Way of Fire from the difficulty of Courage rolls to resist Rötschreck from exposure or proximity to flame. This power does not aid in resisting the panic that accompanies sunlight or any other causes apart from actual fire. If this reduces the difficulty of a Courage roll below two, the koldun simply does not succumb to the Red Fear. Koldun never risk Rötschrek from fire and magma they conjure. (Core Rulebook, V20, p. 452)


Otherwise, a high Courage rating is of use in resisting Rötschrek and so a Koldunic sorcerer of this type would probably have (or develop) a high Courage rating (if they're planning to be around fires caused by other means).

Finally, not all fires are created equal. Way of Fire offers a variety of abilities based on hot things, like magma, but little to no effects that directly produce a fire (though they could ignite other things). That helps a lot, since a fire indirectly caused by their use of the Discipline is probably not going to start out as a conflagration.

A lighter-sized flame used to light a cigarette is pretty easy to dismiss, and a bonfire represents some Rötschrek risk but hardly a guaranteed one. Especially with Fiery Courage, a Way of Fire koldun is likely to be well-equipped to deal with any fires of any kind that they might encounter in their work.


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