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I am playing a 9th level druid and looking for advice on combat forms. Typically I use large forms and focus on vital strike and tail attacks during combat. However this strategy doesn't work when I am in a dungeon with 5ft corridors.

What are the best wild shape alternative forms for druids by level that fit in a 5ft corridor?

I'm looking for something melee focused with high DPR but is fairly simply and easy to play. I also want something that is generic rather than situational.

So far I have looked at using medium animals in wild shape, but these don't seem that great due to poor stats. Maybe there are elemental forms or something else that I have missed?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Good work! But, i want medium forms for others levels too. I will see this later. \$\endgroup\$ – Psycho Mantys Oct 31 at 14:25
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Dinosaurs: Deinonychus

I specify the difference between dinosaurs and other forms because in many cases, dinosaur Wild Shape forms are in a whole different league-- I for one don't like them, because visually it creates a very different kind of game.

If you don't mind that, or like the idea of becoming one, then the deinonychus is easily your best bet for high DPR. Four natural attacks per round (the most of any Medium-sized animal), two of them d8's, and pounce to boot. A 60-ft movement speed makes it the fastest land animal (sorry, cheetahs, Wild Shape doesn't grant you the sprint ability of pure-blood cats), so you'll almost always be the first in the party to make a full-round attack and maximize your damage output.


Everything else: Leopard

Like many other Medium-sized animals, a leopard has three natural attacks per round-- but unlike those other chumps, it also has pounce and rake. Cheetahs get trip, dire badgers get a burrow speed and ferocity, but only leopards can make all of their attacks in the first round. (You can even add your two rake attacks on a pounce, for a total of five attack rolls-- unfortunately, it's not something you can do every turn.) It only has a 30-ft movement speed, which isn't great, but it also has a 20-foot climb speed if you need it.

Note: For very long combats, there's another form that actually edges out the leopard-- the wolverine. It has two d6 claws and a d4 bite, but doesn't have pounce. If a leopard druid and a wolverine druid each go toe-to-toe with a training dummy, the wolverine eventually wins on damage output... on round 9. Most fights won't last that long, so the leopard is still the better choice, but it's worth mentioning.


Honorable mention: Giant Porcupine

Giant porcupines have the distinction of having the highest-damaging natural attack of their size-- a 2d6 tail slap. (Sadly, Wild Shape will never grant you full use of those quills-- but giant porcupines can't use them offensively anyway.) So if you still want to pull Vital Strike shenanigans in a 5-ft corridor, this is the form for you.


What about elementals and plants?

An earth elemental might look tempting because of that +4 Str bonus, but remember that it only gives you a single d8 slam every round. So while it might be a strong contender for Vital Strike tactics (you'll hit more often as an earth elemental than as a giant porcupine, and for almost the same damage), from a total DPR standpoint it's not a good option.

Admittedly I'm not very familiar with plant shapes, but I doubt there are any Medium plants that can compete for damage. Plants tend to have slow movement speeds and only one or two (usually weak) attacks, which are both bad for business. Where they excel is poison and other debuffs, which are a great thing but a different thing.

There is one huge exception to this: a Green Man. Technically a Medium plant, by RAW a Green Man is a legal Wild Shape option (as far as I know). You won't get any of his coolest abilities-- greensight, lifesense, spells, etc.-- but you'd get a whole slew of amazing natural attacks from being one. A Green Man is essentially a living god, who can grant spells and everything; expect your GM to give you a hard no on this.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Leopards can actually make five attacks in the first round, rake attacks included. There is also other medium great cats, who are stronger then leopard (say jaguar). Is there a reason not to use them instead? \$\endgroup\$ – annoying imp Oct 31 at 20:42
  • \$\begingroup\$ Rake attacks can only be made during a grapple, so it's extremely unlikely that you'd be able to make those AND a full attack (are you thinking of rend?). And I don't see an entry for a jaguar on the PRD... can you provide a link? \$\endgroup\$ – PlutoThePlanet Nov 1 at 2:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ Rake attacks kick in because pounce says they do, the part in parentheses specifically. \$\endgroup\$ – annoying imp Nov 1 at 4:40
  • \$\begingroup\$ And for the link, I'll provide it when I'll come home. But you may just search d20pfsrd.com for 'Cat, Great', a cathegory containing all big cats of animal type. \$\endgroup\$ – annoying imp Nov 1 at 4:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ @PsychoMantys Added a section to answer the rest of your question. \$\endgroup\$ – PlutoThePlanet Nov 1 at 20:10

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