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I want to make a level 2 monk that multi-classed into blood hunter for 1 level.

If I did that, would I be able to use crimson rite on my body, and have my unarmed strikes be 2d4 + my dex modifier? And if I was able to "cast" crimson rite on my hand, would I have to do it twice for both my hands or would 1 crimson rite count for both of my hands? Because that would be 1 weapon.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi and welcome to the site! Take the tour if you haven't already and visit the help center if you have further questions. Additionally, it would be helpful to include the text / a quote of the actual ability in question \$\endgroup\$ – Medix2 Dec 12 '19 at 7:18
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Unarmed strikes are not weapons, so they do not work with Crimson Rite

The Blood Hunter's Crimson Rite feature states:

As a bonus action, you imbue a single weapon with the elemental energy of a known rite until your next short or long rest [...]

However, unarmed strikes do not count as weapons and so this feature cannot actually be used on an unarmed strike. The following is a quote from the Sage Advice Compendium that shows this fact:

[...] For example, an unarmed strike counts as a melee weapon attack, even though the attacker’s body isn’t considered a weapon [...]

There was also an errata to the Player's Handbook:

Weapons (p. 149). Unarmed strike has been removed from the Weapons table.

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Usually, the Blood Hunter's unarmed strikes are not considered weapons for purposes of their Crimson Rites. A Crimson Rite is applied to a wielded weapon in most circumstances, although there is one Blood Hunter subclass that can add their Rites to their Fists: the Order of the Lycan. Within the Order of the Lycan, there is this ability:

Predatory Strikes. You can apply your Crimson Rite feature to your unarmed strikes as a single weapon. You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolIs of your unarmed strikes. When you use the Attack action with an unarmed strike, you can make one unarmed strike as a bonus action.

Your unarmed strikes deal 1d6 slashing damage. The damage increases to 1d8 at 11th level.

So, if you reach Blood Hunter level three and choose this subclass, you will be able to apply your Rites to your Unarmed Strikes. The wording is very similar to the Monk's own Martial Arts feature, which leads me to believe that your DM may find this acceptable, due to the similarity of the abilities, or argue that they cannot stack, also due to the similarity of the abilities.

As always, check with your DM, but going by the wording of abilities, this seems to the be best way to snag the combo without having to argue semantics or look too deeply into the Rules As Written.

I dabbled in writing a few class articles, including one about the Blood Hunter. It's not insanely in-depth, but it might help provide a good comparison and explanation of some of the more confusing or complex abilities you'll receive as your climb the level chart!

https://www.playandground.gg/blood-hunter-5e-class-guide/

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Welcome to the site! While your suggestions are helpful as a compromise between what the OP wants to achieve and what the rules prevent, I believe you are being downvoted for skirting the self-promotion rules; it's alright now and then, when you happen to have something of use at hand and you just so happen to be the source, but it's probably a bit glaring, being your first post (and a slight digression). If I were you, I would consider editing out the link and last paragraph, which mars an otherwise decent answer. \$\endgroup\$ – ThanosMaravel Nov 24 '20 at 1:56
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    \$\begingroup\$ @than I suspect you're right about the downvotes for self promoting but I also suspect they're for the fact that, by the time a blood hunter gets access to predatory strikes, the feature obviates the need/benefit of the monk's martial arts at all. \$\endgroup\$ – Rykara Nov 24 '20 at 3:39

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