I'm playing a silverbrow human sorcerer in D&D 3.5e and a prestige class I plan on taking in the future requires me to select a school of magic to prohibit. I'm having trouble deciding which school to choose, so I'm wondering if limited wish would allow me to duplicate the effect of a spell from the prohibited school.

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    – Someone_Evil
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  • \$\begingroup\$ Which prestige class? All of the ones that I can think of that require you to ban a school strike me as very odd choices for a Sorcerer. \$\endgroup\$
    – J. Mini
    Mar 3, 2020 at 1:16
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    \$\begingroup\$ @J.Mini Incantatrix is the most notable one that comes to mind. \$\endgroup\$ Mar 3, 2020 at 20:32
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    – Maxpire
    Mar 4, 2020 at 7:18

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Limited wish can duplicate up to a 5th-level spell that's from one of a caster's prohibited schools

The 7th-level Sor/Wiz spell limited wish [univ] (Player's Handbook 248), in part, says that its effect can "[d]uplicate any sorcerer/wizard spell of 5th level or lower, even if it’s of a prohibited school."


Yes but only up to spells of 5th level for Wizard/Sorcerer spells

Limited wish states:

A limited wish lets you create nearly any type of effect. For example, a limited wish can do any of the following things.

  • Duplicate any sorcerer/wizard spell of 6th level or lower, provided the spell is not of a school prohibited to you.
  • Duplicate any other spell of 5th level or lower, provided the spell is not of a school prohibited to you.
  • Duplicate any sorcerer/wizard spell of 5th level or lower, even if it's of a prohibited school.
  • Duplicate any other spell of 4th level or lower, even if it's of a prohibited school.

  • (...)


  • You could ban Conjuration or evocation (but shades only mimics conjuration) (but banning enchantment would probably be better) and use the spells Shades, greater Shadow Conjuration or Shadow Conjuration Wich could be useful since a single spell (or 2 or 3) can mimick all of one school (summoning or creation for conjuration) (up to level 8th spells) wich could be really useful for a sorcerer and has no exp/material cost (limited wish costs 300xp or more!) it is an illusion.
  • If you can have access to a Collar of Umbral Metamorphosis (continuous) (Tome of magic p.156) (wich gives you the Dark Creature template (Tome of magic p.161) and changes your Environment to the planes of shadow (native plan) However the price should be way higher for this item) and combine it with the spell Planar Bubble here's what happens:

  • Enhanced magic. Spells with the shadow descriptor are enhanced on the Plane of Shadow. Such spells are cast as though they were prepared with the Maximize Spell feat, though they don’t require the higher spell slots. Furthermore, specific spells become more powerful on the Plane of Shadow. Shadow conjuration and shadow evocation spells are 30% as powerful as the conjurations and evocations they mimic (as opposed to 20%). Greater shadow conjuration and greater shadow evocation are 70% as powerful (not 60%), and a shades spell conjures at 90% of the power of the original (not 80%).

  • Impeded magic. Spells that use or generate light or fire may fizzle when cast on the Plane of Shadow. A spellcaster attempting a spell with the light or fire descriptor must succeed on a Spellcraft check (DC 20 + the level of the spell). Spells that produce light are less effective in general, because all light sources have their ranges halved on the Plane of Shadow. Despite the dark nature of the Plane of Shadow, spells that produce, use, or manipulate darkness are unaffected by the plane.

  • The Spell Planar bubble even confirms it would give you all the
    benefits/drawbacks I mentionned:

    (...)This spell cast on a native of the Plane of Shadow would make the area around her have normal gravity, a mild neutral alignment, enhanced shadow spells, and impeded light spells.

    (A mildly neutral-aligned plane does not apply a circumstance penalty to anyone. SRD)


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