If my bard with the feat Disguise Spell (Complete Adventurer 108) is the victor in the opposed check (my bard's Perform skill check against onlookers' Spot skill checks) can the spell he cast still be countered normally? Because it doesn't require a Spellcraft skill check, can the spell be countered with a dispel magic spell?

Note: I play a bard in the current campaign, and I optimized him for being a bard (Disguise Spell, Lyric Spell, Melodic Casting, Song of Heart, etc.). Through careful stacking of bonuses, his 28 Cha, a masterwork instrument, magic items, and a DM-created item, my Perform checks are d20+40 as level 17 bard.

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    – Someone_Evil
    Mar 8, 2020 at 11:37

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No, the disguised spell cannot be counterspelled

From Disguise Spell:

Onlookers must match or exceed your check result with a Spot check to detect that you’re casting a spell (your performance is obvious to everyone in the vicinity, but the fact that you are casting a spell isn’t).

From Counterspells:

To use a counterspell, you must select an opponent as the target of the counterspell. You do this by choosing the ready action. In doing so, you elect to wait to complete your action until your opponent tries to cast a spell.

Because one cannot detect the casting of a spell, one cannot act in response.

That said, if the effect of the spell is not instantaneous, there may be opportunity for the caster holding their action to instead dispel the effect of the spell.


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