The subject of this question is the Forge Cleric's debatably useful Channel Divinity ability, "Artisan's Blessing"

You conduct an hour-long ritual that crafts a nonmagical item that must include some metal: a simple or martial weapon, a suit of armor, ten pieces of ammunition, a set of tools, or another metal object (see chapter 5, "Equipment," in the Player's Handbook for examples of these items). The creation is completed at the end of the hour, coalescing in an unoccupied space of your choice on a surface within 5 feet of you.

The thing you create can be something that is worth no more than 100 gp. As part of this ritual, you must lay out metal, which can include coins, with a value equal to the creation. The metal irretrievably coalesces and transforms into the creation at the ritual's end, magically forming even nonmetal parts of the creation

While useful for making sure your party always has the equivalent of a general good store around with you, whether or not it can be used over several attempts to craft better goods is the subject of other questions. Here, however, I'm concerned with what is the value of an item.

Suppose the following situation: I, a Forge Cleric, am currently wearing a suit of scale mail. I decide it's time to finally upgrade to heavy armor, doff my scale mail (which I previously purchased for 50g), and decide to make it into a suit of chain mail (worth 75gp). Thus, I obviously lay out some coinage...

... but how much? Can I use the scale mail's full value and only have to add 25gp to the total? More? Ask my DM?


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An item’s value is its full cost

There's a “Selling Treasure” section in Chapter 5: Equipment of the Player’s Handbook and Basic Rules. Under “Arms, Armor and Other Equipment”, it says:

As a general rule, undamaged weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in a market.

This tells us that you only get “half their cost” when selling such items in a market. There’s no mention of the cost (or value; see below) being halved for any other purposes.

In the same section, under “Gems, Jewelry, and Art Objects” and “Trade Goods and Other”, the items in question are said to “retain their full value”. This tells us that “value” is equated with an item’s full listed cost.

Therefore for the purposes of the Forge Cleric Artisan’s Blessing, since the ritual doesn’t involve selling the offered items to a marketplace, the scale mail would retain its full value, i.e. its listed cost of 50gp.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Upvoted, but it is slighty confusing that clicking on the links labelled after their sources leads me to Selling treasure instead of their sources. If you restructure your sentence e.g. "In Chapter 5: Equipment there's a Selling Treasure section, see in the Player’s Handbook or Basic Rules. Under “Arms, Armor and Other Equipment”, it says:" then it would be clear. \$\endgroup\$
    – Akixkisu
    Mar 9, 2020 at 10:19
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Akixkisu thanks for the feedback - I’ll rethink that sentence! \$\endgroup\$ Mar 9, 2020 at 18:02

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