My PG is a Shade, so:

Racial Traits

As creatures of the Plane of Shadows, shades are considered to be of the outsider type.

So far so good. The problem is: if the Shade race is already a little unbalanced, how does the outsider type interact with it?

Do I get the Outsider features?

Outsider Type


An outsider has the following features.

8-sided Hit Dice. Base attack bonus equal to total Hit Dice (as fighter). Good Fortitude, Reflex, and Will saves. Skill points equal to (8 + Int modifier, minimum 1) per Hit Die, with quadruple skill points for the first Hit Die.

From: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#extraplanarSubtype

  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi, welcome to the site! Great question—so great, actually, that we’ve already got an answer for it. Last time it was an alienist instead of a shade, but it works out the same way. \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    Apr 2, 2020 at 2:11
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KRyan thank you. I have just read the answer for the associated post, but it is still unclear to me what "racial hit dice" are. \$\endgroup\$
    – Verdict00
    Apr 2, 2020 at 2:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KRyan nevermid, i have just found the answer. This question is a duplicate, should I delete it? \$\endgroup\$
    – Verdict00
    Apr 2, 2020 at 2:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ No, duplicates are useful—they help searches find the right place. Feel free to leave it alone. Also, I’d like to warn you, especially since you seem new to the game, shade is a really weak race because of the LA +4 on it. That means when you should be a 5th-level character, you’re 1st-level instead. Yeah, you have fast healing and invisibility and so on, but actual class levels are better. Unless your DM is changing how the rules with those work, you may find that an unpleasant experience. Your hp, saves, and skills will be really low and you’ll die really easily. \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    Apr 2, 2020 at 2:28
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    \$\begingroup\$ Try here. \$\endgroup\$ May 20, 2020 at 11:45


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