Say a character took 5 levels in duskblade, then 5 levels in abjurant champion, then 5 in cleric, then 5 in wizard (it's not a particularly optimized character). They later decide they want to use abjurant champion's capstone feature on their wizard class, instead of duskblade. However, the prestige class says:

At each level, you gain new spells per day and an increase in caster level (and spells known, if applicable) as if you had also gained a level in an arcane spellcasting class to which you belonged before adding the prestige class level.

(emphasis mine)

This means that in order to "register" their wizard spellcasting with abjurant champion at all, they need to "move" at least one of their wizard levels "in front of" at least one of the abjurant champion levels (ideally all of them, for caster progression). In effect, they want to go from:

duskblade 5/abjurant champion 5/cleric 5/wizard 5


duskblade 5/wizard 1/abjurant champion 5/cleric 5/wizard 4

Now, the PHB II section on class level rebuilding (pp.197-198) says:

Each time your character completes a rebuild quest, you can change a number of levels equal to 1/5 his character level (rounded up) from one class to any other class (or classes).

So, in the example above, how many levels are they "changing"? Are they only changing one level, as the others get "pushed out of the way", and therefore they only need to do one rebuild quest?

Or are they changing every level from character level 6th up to character level 16th, and thus need to complete several rebuild quests, changing a handful of levels each time in order to slowly move their wizard level further up the chain?

Or are they not changing any class levels, because in the end every class level they have after rebuilding, they also had before, meaning there's no actual change taking place? And so, all they need to do is reorganize the way they list things on their character sheet and retrain the abjurant champion class features?


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To be clear, I know you know some of this already, but I'm walking through this so that everybody's on the same page. The prestige class abjurant champion at level 5 gains the extraordinary ability martial arcanist that says

At 5th level, you master the art of combining your militant and mystical training. From this point on, your caster level in a chosen arcane spellcasting class is equal to your base attack bonus (unless it would otherwise be higher). For example, a 7th-level fighter/1st-level wizard/5th-level abjurant champion has a base attack bonus of +12 (and thus a caster level of 12th). You can apply this benefit to only one arcane class to which you have added spellcasting levels by your advancement as an abjurant champion. (Complete Mage 50)

Thus a duskblade 5/abjurant champion 5 can use each iteration of the prestige class abjurant champion's +1 level of existing arcane spellcasting class feature to improve his duskblade casting, and that character can only pick the class duskblade for the ability martial arcanist. The choice made for the ability martial arcanist can't typically be changed. Hence, as the question mentions, a duskblade 5/abjurant champion 5 who then takes a level of wizard has typically made a less than optimal choice.

However, on Class Level Rebuilding on The Process, in part, says, "Each time your character completes a rebuild quest, you can change a number of levels equal to 1/5 his character level (rounded up) from one class to any other class (or classes)" (Players Handbook II 197). Essentially, a level 20 duskblade 5/cleric 5/wizard 5/abjurant champion 5 can change 4 of his existing abjurant champion levels (say levels 2–5) that saw him make certain choices then to abjurant champion levels that see him make different choices now. (And, to be sure, that's one reason for class level rebuilding in the first place!)

(Normally, this reader dislikes the idea of changing one thing into the same thing. Seriously, usually changing a thing to the same thing just isn't a change. However, here the character is, essentially, moving when the character took that final level of abjurant champion so the character can make different decisions regarding that level, and that's a for-real change. By the way, this kind of change is beyond the scope of, for instance, class feature retraining (PH2 192—3) as that only allows changing a choice to a different choice that was available when the class feature was initially gained. A duskblade 5/abjurant champion 5 who applied everything from abjurant champion to duskblade who then takes a level of wizard can't then use class feature retraining on the ability martial arcanist because his only option for the ability martial arcanist when he gained the ability martial arcanist was duskblade. Yes, this is complicated and exhausting. Thanks for asking.)

So, changing those 4 existing abjurant champion levels to 4 abjurant champion levels with different decisions enables the character to apply differently four iterations of the abjurant champion feature +1 level of existing arcane spellcasting class (perhaps now picking 4 times wizard instead of duskblade) and make a different decision for the ability martial arcanist (perhaps now picking wizard instead of duskblade).

In other words, what's desired is actually easier than it may initially appear: A duskblade 5/wizard 1/abjurant champion 5 who applied everything from abjurant champion to duskblade with the DM's approval can undergo a rebuild quest, succeed, and change only that fifth level of abjurant champion so as to change that level's +1 level of existing arcane spellcasting class from duskblade to wizard and change the ability martial arcanist so it applies to wizard instead of duskblade. Changing more abjurant champion levels (in our duskblade 5/wizard 1/abjurant champion 5's case, this could be a total of two—that fifth level of abjurant champion and the second a level of whatever) could further improve wizard casting, but that isn't necessary for the ability martial arcanist to work for this character the way it sounds like the question wants it to work for this character.

Keep in mind that rebuilding quests are at the DM's discretion, consume a lot of time at the gaming table, are hard, don't always succeed, and are typically undergone only once during a character's adventuring career. The process is supposed to be difficult enough and rare enough to do for a character what the question asks.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Ah, yeah that's a good point about the example given! Admittedly I didn't think the example through all the way, since the actual situation I'm considering is much more complicated, involving multiple PrCs and moving classes between "sides" of a gestalt build. Looking at it again, though, I think things can be rearranged similarly to how you suggested. If I can't figure out a way to order things quite so easily, maybe I should give the actual situation I'm looking at? In which case, should that be its own question, or a comment here, or...? \$\endgroup\$
    – 47948201
    Apr 19, 2020 at 5:58
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    \$\begingroup\$ @47948201 The real question should've been your first question. :-) That is, the site nearly always favors the specific over the hypothetical. But, yes, since you've already asked the hypothetical, the real question should be asked separately. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 19, 2020 at 6:04
  • \$\begingroup\$ Changing the order of some things on the spreadsheet, it seems that it should work out with pretty minimal alterations--the most questionable part comes down to a houserule about gestalt and racial levels, so I think for most purposes it's pretty much solved unless the DM decides otherwise. But anyway, I'll definitely keep that in mind for next time! \$\endgroup\$
    – 47948201
    Apr 19, 2020 at 6:11
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    \$\begingroup\$ Almost makes one wish there was a Greater Psychic Reformation power.... \$\endgroup\$
    – nijineko
    Apr 19, 2020 at 13:41
  • \$\begingroup\$ Suggestions for improvement welcome. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 20, 2020 at 5:28

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