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The "Way of the Long Death" monk has a feature called "Touch of Death":

Touch of Death

Starting when you choose this tradition at 3rd level, your study of death allows you to extract vitality from another creature as it nears its demise. When you reduce a creature within 5 feet of you to 0 hit points, you gain temporary hit points equal to your Wisdom modifier + your monk level (minimum of 1 temporary hit point).

(Bold added for emphasis). How does this work when a WotLD Monk reduces a zombie to 0 hit points and the blow is shrugged off by undead fortitude?

Undead Fortitude

If damage reduces the zombie to 0 hit points, it must make a Constitution saving throw with a DC of 5+the damage taken, unless the damage is radiant or from a critical hit. On a success, the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead.

I could see this working one of two ways:

  1. A zombie takes a hit, and drops to 0 hit points. Then Undead Fortitude kicks in and on a success, the zombie comes back to 1 HP. The zombie had been reduced to 0 hp, so ToD activates.

  2. A zombie takes a hit, and makes a roll to see whether it drops to 0 or 1 HP. On a success, it drops to 1 HP and had never dropped to 0, therefore ToD does not activate.

Is there any official ruling on this case? If not, what is a reasonable interpretation of these rules?

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I would rule that Touch of Death does not trigger if Undead Fortitude is triggered.

Touch of Death activates when:

you reduce a creature within 5 feet of you to 0 hit points.

But Undead Fortitude says:

the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead.

Instead here indicates that the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead of dropping to 0, so the trigger for Touch of Death never happens. Or to put it another way, the Zombie drops to 1 hitpoint instead of [the trigger for Touch of Death], since "drops to 0 hit points" is the trigger for Touch of Death.

I would rule this way because Undead Fortitude appears to make it so that the trigger for Touch of Death never happened. There is room to rule otherwise though, as it still requires the DM to make an aparently arbitrary choice about the resolution order. Alternatively, we have some optional guidance...

An optional rule from Xanathar's Guide can change my ruling.

In Xanathar's Guide, we see an optional rule for resolving simultaneous effects:

In rare cases, effects can happen at the same time, especially at the start or end of a creature’s turn. If two or more things happen at the same time on a character or monster’s turn, the person at the game table — whether player or DM — who controls that creature decides the order in which those things happen.

In this case, if it is the Monk's turn, they may choose to resolve Touch of Death before undead fortitude.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ How can the zombie use its Undead Fortitude if the triggering condition, being reduced to 0hp, is never met? \$\endgroup\$
    – Kirt
    Dec 19, 2020 at 20:36
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Kirt I don't understand. \$\endgroup\$ Dec 19, 2020 at 20:37
  • \$\begingroup\$ You say that the use of Undead Fortitude means that the trigger for Touch of Death never happens. But the trigger for Undead Fortitude is the zombie being reduced to 0hp. I don't understand how you can argue that the zombie is never at 0hp when the ability that puts it at 1hp is not triggered unless and until it reaches 0 first. \$\endgroup\$
    – Kirt
    Dec 19, 2020 at 20:40
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Kirt Becuase applying that logic to Undead Fortitude is the Liar’s Paradox. \$\endgroup\$ Dec 19, 2020 at 20:41
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Kirt There are multiple effects that retroactively prevent their triggers from taking place. For example, the monk's Deflect Missile ability triggers when the monk is hit with a ranged weapon attack. The monk can catch the missile, negating the hit. The Hexblade's Armor of Hexes triggers when a cursed creature hits the warlock. The warlock can potentially turn the hit into a miss. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jonathan
    Feb 23, 2021 at 17:50
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Undead Fortitude and Touch of Death both trigger

Both Undead Fortitude and Touch of Death specify the circumstances under which they activate.

When you reduce a creature within 5 feet of you to 0 hit points

and

If damage reduces the zombie to 0 hit points

It is paradoxical to rule that Undead Fortitude prevents the Zombie from ever having been reduced to 0 hp because, if that were the case, then the feature would prevent its own trigger from occurring.

This can be compared to the Relentless feature of the Wereboar (MM, 209):

if the wereboar takes 14 damage or less that would reduce it to 0 hit points, it is reduced to 1 hit point instead.

Since this triggers on the damage rather than on being reduced to 0 hp it would prevent Touch of Death from triggering.

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    \$\begingroup\$ In this related answer I compared Undead Fortitude with Relentless Endurance. I find your contrast of Undead Fortitude with Wereboar Relentless more informative, though, because of the change in tense. "If damage reduces" means the Zombie is at 0, at least temporarily. But "if damage would reduce" (conditional) means the Wereboar is not ever at 0. \$\endgroup\$
    – Kirt
    Dec 18, 2020 at 23:24
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Kirt That argument ignores the crucial word "instead" in Undead Fortitude. There's no basis for the creature being at 0 hp "temporarily", as Undead Fortitude does not restore lost hit points. \$\endgroup\$
    – Mark Wells
    Dec 19, 2020 at 16:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ @MarkWells As Odo points out above, Undead fortitude does not trigger until the Zombie is at 0hp. If the zombie is never at 0, it cannot use Undead Fortitude. If it makes its save, it then is at 1hp instead of remaining at 0. \$\endgroup\$
    – Kirt
    Dec 19, 2020 at 20:32
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    \$\begingroup\$ I think the crucial word from Undead Fortitude is actually "drops." If the Zombie is at 0 HP, it can't drop to 1. \$\endgroup\$ Dec 19, 2020 at 20:53
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    \$\begingroup\$ @ScurvyShroom The rules for Undead Fortitude, as written, are self-contradictory. If the zombie is at 0, it cannot 'drop' to 1. We can agree on that, but disagree about which aspect of the feature is written wrong. I think it is more likely, when describing a feature, that a writer would be sloppy about the word 'drop' than they would in describing the triggering condition for the feature itself. Furthermore, insisting on 'drop' as correct then means UF also cannot work when the zombie is already at 1hp before taking damage (and see the question I linked in the first comment). \$\endgroup\$
    – Kirt
    Dec 19, 2020 at 21:12

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