# What is the appropriate way to account for readied-action movement time and time to attack when trying to utilise Pack Tactics?

## Context

I want to play a character that is a Kobold race and make good use of their Pack Tactics.

Pack Tactics. You have advantage on an attack roll against a creature if at least one of your allies is within 5 feet of the creature and the ally isn't incapacitated.

Using a Find Familiar-generated Owl with Flyby.

Flyby. The owl doesn't provoke opportunity attacks when it flies out of an enemy's reach.

I want to make effective use of the readied-action movement option to have the owl next to my targets when I make my attacks, but safely away from/above the enemies as best as possible during all other times.

To do so, you can take the Ready action on your turn so that you can act later in the round using your reaction. When the trigger occurs, you can either take your reaction right after the trigger finishes or ignore the trigger.

First, you decide what perceivable circumstance will trigger your reaction. Then, you choose the action you will take in response to that trigger, or you choose to move up to your speed in response to it.

Case 1; If the initiative order is such that the sequence owl>kobold>target occurs; I would have the owl fly up to the target and ready an action to move to a good safe spot when I either yell a trigger word, or within 100ft, when I telepathically send a trigger word. Then on my turn take my attacks with pact tactics and trigger the owl away at the end my turn.

Case 2; If the initiative order is such that the sequence owl>target>kobold occurs; I would ideally have the owl move to a good staging spot and then ready an action to move to the target with the same trigger as above. Then at the start of my turn trigger the owl to take its readied move, and then once it's next to the target take my attacks.

## Question

For each case, how long would it take for the owl to use its reaction and move to its specified readied-action movement location? How many attacks would go off with pack tactics?

• I've removed your interpretatino from the question. If you'd like to submit that as an answer (and you are more than welcome to do so!), please do so that you can see the response to your answer separate to your question. It also clearly identifies the question and doesn't 'lead' answers anywhere. Apr 14, 2021 at 12:03

## Time is measured in turns not seconds

In D&D 5e, movement and actions do not consume time, they consume actions. The game is inherently turn based. Actions happen in sequence, usually each action completes before another can begin, the exceptions are movement (which can be broken up between actions or attacks on your turn), Bonus Actions (which can occur between attacks on your turn) and finally Readied Actions. Readied Actions use your reaction to allow you to act in response to a trigger, which may interrupt other actions during a turn.

In the case of Readied Actions, once the trigger occurs the action happens as soon as the triggering action is completed. Then the readied action takes place, completely, before resuming normal initiative order.

To understand this lets look at the rules for the Ready Action:

(...) you can take the Ready action on your turn, which lets you act using your reaction before the start of your next turn. (...)

When the trigger occurs, you can either take your reaction right after the trigger finishes or ignore the trigger. (...) If the reaction interrupts another creature's turn, that creature can continue its turn right after the reaction. (Chapter 9: Actions in Combat, PHB)

The Ready Action lets you perform an act in response to a trigger using your Reaction. This act can be anything you could have done on your turn with your Action, in this case the Owl is readying movement.

To determine when this happens we need to look at what it means to use your Reaction. A reaction is defined as (emphasis mine):

A reaction is an instant response to a trigger of some kind, which can occur on your turn or on someone else's. (Chapter 9: The Order of Combat, PHB)

When you trigger then Owl's movement, it instantly responds by moving to the desired position. Then you "continue [your] turn right after the reaction".

### Case 1

The sequence of events for initiative order Owl -> Kobold -> Target is as follows (note; I have left out bonus actions, which can be taken at any point in the turn):

1. On the Owl's turn:
1. Owl uses its movement to fly up to the target.
2. Owl uses its action to Ready movement to move to a set position when Kobold signals it.
3. Owl's turn ends.
2. On the Kobold's turn:
1. Kobold uses its action to Attack. Getting as many attacks as it can take with the Attack action.
2. Kobold uses a free activity on their turn to signal the Owl.
3. Owl's readied action triggers. Owl moves to position.
4. Kobold's turn ends.
3. Target's turn

### Case 2

The sequence of events for initiative order Owl -> Target -> Kobold is as follows:

1. On the Owl's turn:
1. Owl uses its movement to fly to a safe place.
2. Owl uses its action to Ready movement to move next to the target when Kobold signals it.
3. Owl's turn ends.
2. Target's turn
3. On the Kobold's turn:
1. Kobold uses a free activity on their turn to signal the Owl.
2. Owl's readied action triggers. Owl moves to position.
3. Kobold uses its action to Attack. Getting as many attacks as it can take with the Attack action.
4. Kobold's turn ends.

In both cases the Kobold can get its full turn of actions/attacks with benefit of Pack Tactics. This is the combat system working as intended.

### A Caveat

It is worth pointing out that this will be more difficult to pull off with more than one target as the initiative order won't always suit you. Also targets could Ready an Action to attack the Owl when it comes within range, which would trigger before the Kobold's attacks, potentially negating Pack Tactics.

## D&D isn't a realistic combat system

The combat system in D&D does not attempt to replicate a realistic combat environment. Ideas such as movement taking time or actions occurring simultaneously are not compatible with the game.

The game organizes the chaos of combat into a cycle of rounds and turns. A round represents about 6 seconds in the game world. During a round, each participant in a battle takes a turn. (Chapter 9: The Order of Combat, PHB)

While your attempts to make this logical and account for realistic movement are admirable, they do not align with the actual rules of combat and action resolution. Rounds, Turns and Actions are an abstraction of game-time passing. A round is approximately 6 seconds but turns do not resolve in real-time. Their resolve mechanically in initiative order, which follows the sequence I have laid out above.

Were I to DM this situation, I would allow it exactly as the rules intend. You, however, are free to house-rule any modification you wish. Simply discuss it with your DM as it is their ruling that will matter at the table.

• It would seem to me that essentially any thing that uses a reaction in the rules is an example of the designers not intending everything to be instantaneous. Or else, how are things taking place during the middle of other things. This would be such a large part of the rules and would effect and clarify so many unclear cases such as the one I presented; you would think the designers would have mentioned this somewhere in the rules. This effects and has implication to almost everything and it would be so brief to include somewhere in writing. Apr 14, 2021 at 6:46
• @SpiderWaffle Opportunity Attacks have a specific rule which says "The attack occurs right before the creature leaves your reach". Specific overrules general, so that is when AoO occur. Apr 14, 2021 at 7:05
• @SpiderWaffle A creature is between its start and end location during its move on its turn. Any reactions that are triggered based on specific positioning can happen during this phase. However this does not consume "time", it is happening during a turn. Only a round lasts 6 seconds, a turn does not a measure of time. It has an order of actions called the Initiative Order. Actions are resolved in order based on a combination of the rules in chapter 9 and any specific alterations from spells, feats or any other circumstances. Apr 14, 2021 at 7:06
• @SpiderWaffle Also yes, Readied Actions can trigger on Readied Actions. PC1: I ready to attack if NPC does. NPC: Readies to attack if PC2 moves. PC2: moves, NPC's readied attack triggers, PC1's readied attack triggers based on that reaction. PC2's turn continues. Apr 14, 2021 at 7:10