I am running a campaign with clerics, wizards and shadowcasters.

One of the PCs, a cleric, wants to choose a celestial brilliance spell. That's not a problem.

The problem lays in how this spells works with other spells:

Celestial brilliance brought into an area of magical darkness (or vice versa) is temporarily negated, so that the otherwise prevailing light conditions exist in the overlapping areas of effect.

Celestial brilliance counters or dispels any darkness spell of equal or lower level, such as deeper darkness.

(Book of Exalted Deeds pg. 94)

Does the light from this spell affect shadow and spells with dark attribute used by allies, such as the clerics, wizards, and shadowcasters I mentioned above?

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    – V2Blast
    Commented Aug 9, 2021 at 21:32

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The first and most important thing: negating and countering/dispelling are separate. They don’t both happen from the same casting of the spell.


Negating is what happens when you cast celestial brilliance normally—it creates light in the area, except for the parts of the area that overlap with magical darkness. In those spots, instead of creating light, it negates the magical darkness (just as the magical darkness negates its light).

Applies to everyone equally

Celestial brilliance does what it does equally to everyone. There is nothing in the spell that allows the caster to limit its effect on allies. Anything it does to enemies, it does to allies too (and to the cleric themselves!). Likewise, anything it doesn’t do to allies, it also doesn’t do to enemies.

That includes the negating

So yes, celestial brilliance negates magical darkness, both from allies and enemies. But this is only “darkness,” not all dark or shadow-based magic. You are looking for the “[Darkness]” descriptor in the spell description, after the school. For example, deeper darkness has “Evocation [Darkness]” on the second line—that is what celestial brilliance interferes with.

If something has “[Darkness]” then celestial brilliance negates it in the area where they overlap. If something has something to do with darkness or shadow or whatever, but doesn’t have “[Darkness],” then it works fine in celestial brilliance.

Shadow spells and darkness spells are separate

“Shadow spells” are those that have “Illusion (Shadow).”

“Darkness spells” are those that have “[Darkness].”

The two aren’t the same! Shadow evocation is a shadow spell, but not a darkness spell. Deeper darkness is a darkness spell, but not a shadow spell. And celestial brilliance only negates darkness spells, not shadow spells.

So if the cleric’s wizard ally casts deeper darkness, the cleric’s celestial brilliance negates it where they overlap. The same for a shadowcaster’s black candle mystery used to create darkness (Tome of Magic pg. 142). And if an enemy babau demon casts darkness, celestial brilliance negates that too.

However, if the wizard casts shadow evocation, celestial radiance doesn’t do anything to it. And likewise for enemy wizards, they can also use shadow evocation within celestial brilliance with zero problems.

Finally, despite the name, shadow magic isn’t always technically in the “(Shadow)” subschool. Celestial brilliance doesn’t do anything to shadow spells in the first place, but if something does, it only works on the mysteries that actually have the “Illusion (Shadow)” school, like ephemeral image (Tome of Magic pg. 145).

And shadow mysteries like bolster—which is just “Transmutation,” no “(Shadow)” or “[Darkness]”—are not affected by anything that interferes with shadow spells or darkness spells, because it isn’t a shadow spell or darkness spell—it’s just a Transmutation.

Countering and dispelling

Countering or dispelling are alternate uses of the spell—instead of casting celestial brilliance, you can use the prepared celestial brilliance spell to counter or negate a [Darkness] spell of lower level. If you do this, you don’t get the usual effect of celestial brilliance—no light—and instead just eliminate the [Darkness] spell of whatever you countered or dispelled. Countering and dispelling are targeted effects, so you can (and probably would) choose to use them only on enemies.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Great answer, as usual. Given the confusion on how countering/dispelling works, it might be worth adding a pointer to those mechanics. (d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm), plus the callout that some spells explicitly counter other spells. \$\endgroup\$
    – fectin
    Commented Aug 9, 2021 at 22:41
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    \$\begingroup\$ Note, only areas of magical darkness are negated (as well as their effects), not [darkness] spells themselves. There are [darkness] spells which do not create areas of darkness. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 11, 2021 at 22:28
  • \$\begingroup\$ Also, much less relevant: there is my question about dispelling with opposite spells that has unadressed issues (see comments under answers). Note, Pathfinder do not changed this mechanic. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 11, 2021 at 22:43

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