# Is there a way to find all Primal spells with a Will save?

When I tried to search AoN (Archives of Nethys) for "Will primal", I got some spells, but it seems the search only looks for the keywords in the body, but not in the header, basically the opposite of what I need.

Is there a way other than going through the primal spell list manually?

• As written, I am having a hard time not seeing this as a tool recommendation, which is off topic. But, you can simply reword the question as the real problem you are trying to solve: "what are all the Primal spells with a Will save?" Oct 6 '21 at 19:37
• Alternatively, this could be a question on how to best use Archive of Nethys search, in which case this seems like less of a tool recommendation and more of how to use a (very common) PF2e tool. I'd think that either this question (or the one @ThomasMarkov recommends) would be stackable.
– ESCE
Oct 6 '21 at 19:42
• @ESCE That is a good suggestion as well, we have precedent for that kind of question. Oct 6 '21 at 19:43
• Are you sure you're getting nothing? I followed your link and got a list of spells. Oct 6 '21 at 19:45
• @ESCE, it seems I misunderstood the tool tag. I really do not need a tool recommendation, but help to get these spells Oct 7 '21 at 7:09

Currently, the Primal spells that require a Will save are the following:

Tame, Charm, Fear, Lose the Path, Positive Attunement, Compel True Name, Banishment, Glimmer of Charm, Mariner's Curse, Ravening Maw, Blanket of Stars, Blinding Fury, Catch Your Name, and Burning Blossoms.

As of this answer, Archives of Nethys is not well suited for searching on the basis of spell saving throw type or tradition. Its search function looks at the name and text of a spell, but not its other characteristics. Furthermore, AoN's spell index is not otherwise filterable by saving throw type.

Instead, this list was gathered using PF2 Easy Tools, which provides slightly better spell filtering functionality than Archives of Nethys. I retrieved the list by:

• Filtering the total spell list by the Primal tradition (using the top menu options)

• Entering "Will" in the save type filter in the table generated below.

• @ESCE Technically Nethys has a list of all primal spells and you can cross reference this with the search redults for "will save" and "will saving" to get almost the same results (Ravening Maw would be missing). So you'd still need to use excel or coding or something to cross reference quickly, but it can be done non-manually. Or just use any of a number of potentially less-than-legal other sites that do all the sorting for you Oct 7 '21 at 17:54
• @Cellion I would actually suggest expanding your answer to include that PF2 Easy Tools link, and maybe a brief description of how you got the result; seeing as the question is asking for how to find this information, rather than a list. (It'll also make the question/answer a bit more generally useful, which is always good.) Oct 7 '21 at 23:44
• @LessPop_MoreFizz I initially wanted to avoid plugging a particular tool to not turn this into a tool recommendation. I'll certainly update if that makes for a more useful answer. Oct 8 '21 at 13:53
• @Cellion Answers can recommend anything they want—we have policy against questions seeking such recommendations, but if a good answer to a valid question is to recommend a tool (or anything else, though I have a hard time imagining a valid question where recommending a whole game system would be a good answer), then it is entirely valid to recommend a tool. This is, in fact, the explicit recommendation for editing tool recommendation questions: change it from asking for a tool to asking simply “how do I?” and then if there is a useful tool for that purpose, that will be a good answer. Oct 8 '21 at 14:38