I have been thinking about various quintessence sources and I was thinking on how a mage could reliably generate quintessence on a weekly basis without a node. The idea I came up with was a pastorship.

In MtA the idea of belief being power is emphasized quite a bit.

So what I want to ask is: Is it possible to make use of people's prayers in order to generate quintessence (or tass) and which spheres would be involved in such a quintessence production?


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Drawing quintessence from the ambient environment calls for Prime ••••, and the prayers of the faithful could make a fine paradigmatic reason for that to work — and flavor the resonance appropriately. (This is detailed in "Tapping the Wellspring" in M20's How Do You DO That?, page 43, but all versions of Mage: the Ascension allow for drawing quint from "nothing" at this level of Prime.)

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    \$\begingroup\$ So the answer is "yeah, sure, whatever"? Like it could be a church service, but could equally well be a weekly D&D game. Using prayer gives no advantage here -- it's just one of many acceptable fluff reasons. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jan 27, 2022 at 3:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ I mean, yes, but sincerely. If you were a mage whose paradigm centered on the idea that other worlds were accessible through imagining them through roleplay, the process might be similar. In Mage, the notion that tools and practices are a lens through which your will is focused is key to the setting. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jadasc
    Commented Jan 27, 2022 at 3:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ Depending on the nature of the prayer, you could also potentially draw Quintessence from prayer with a lower Prime score, if the prayer involves some form of sacrifice or mortification of the flesh. \$\endgroup\$
    – nick012000
    Commented Jan 27, 2022 at 8:21
  • \$\begingroup\$ @nick012000 That's certainly true. There's more on that here: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/183612/… \$\endgroup\$
    – Jadasc
    Commented Jan 27, 2022 at 13:07

So long as that prayer includes sacrifices

See "How Do You Do That?" p.50

With matter 2 and prime 2 you can burn valuable objects for their quintessence. One can imagine a church that demands poverty, and makes people burn objects of great value at the behest of the church during service to fuel their head mage to grant the mage lots of power.

Prime 3 allows you to tap willing blood sacrifices. You can take a small amount of life force from willing victims, including church goers, granting yourself a regular supply of power.


I have found several rotes that deal with this situation and I felt they justify a direct answer.

Spinning Thread Allows the Weaver to pull esoteric things, such as “the shriek of a thrice cursed ifrit” and convert it into a physical form, Tass.

While not neccessarily from a service one could use it to convert things like 'Prayer of a desperate mother.

Another thing would be Legions Life Requiring a group of at least twenty people who have bonded closely (such as with common military training), the Mage can use this bonding to siphon off Quintessence from the group rather than from individuals, not taking much from any single person. For every twenty people in the group, the Mage can gain one Quintessence without causing any harm. The Mage can pull a maximum of one Quintessence per success on this rote. This draw may be done once per day

Which again could be used to draw quintessence from people that bonded through worship.

Finally An Uncompromising Commitment to Excellence

Targets of this procedure work harder than they’ve ever worked before. Successes are spent first up to the highest willpower of all targets, then to duration. Each success after that decreases difficulties in a single Attribute + Ability pool by 1. For every hour spent in this state, each target takes a level of aggravated damage from the physical and psychological strain of working beyond capacity. If one of the workers dies, the Technocrat gains 5 points of Primal Energy. Targets can roll Willpower at difficulty 8 to resist each time they suffer damage or are asked to do something blatantly self-destructive or Nature-defying. Successes accumulate until they have more successes than the highest Willpower, at which point they break free. Sleepers must spend a Willpower point each roll, but do not gain an automatic success

This could be used to make people keep praying fervently till they die which would generate quintessence.


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