The Genie warlock (TCoE, p. 73) has the Genie's Vessel feature, one of the benefits of which is Bottled Respite. The description of Bottled Respite states, in part:

As an action, you can magically vanish and enter your vessel, which remains in the space you left. [...] You can remain inside the vessel up to a number of hours equal to twice your proficiency bonus. [...] Once you enter the vessel, you can’t enter again until you finish a long rest.

If a portable hole is brought into a Genie's Vessel in order to function as an extra room, does entering the portable hole stop the countdown for the number of hours possible to spend in the Genie's Vessel?

Also, given that you can only enter your vessel once per long rest, can you leave the portable hole to reenter the Genie's Vessel?

(Assume for the purposes of this question that the Genie's Vessel is not a "similar item" for the purposes of the portable hole's destruction clause.)

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    \$\begingroup\$ Related: "Is it safe to bring an item like a Bag of Holding into a Genie Warlock's Bottle?" \$\endgroup\$ Feb 16, 2022 at 19:33
  • \$\begingroup\$ I assume, in order to count as being in the hole and no longer in the vessel, you're going to be folding up the hole with yourself inside it. Doesn't that normally require a creature outside the hole to do the folding? Who's in the vessel with you? \$\endgroup\$ Feb 17, 2022 at 2:59
  • \$\begingroup\$ If you would like to continue the shenanigans in a safer way, don't use a portable hole, use demiplane. Same effect, can leave the vessel, but now for 59 minutes (make sure you're back. before demiplane shuts down. \$\endgroup\$
    – MivaScott
    Feb 17, 2022 at 17:24

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You left the realm of rules and entered the realm of rulings when you allowed the portable hole to enter the vessel.

In the Q&A Is it safe to bring an item like a Bag of Holding into a Genie Warlock's Bottle?, I make the case that rules-as-written, it is not safe to do this.

The description of the portable hole says:

Placing a portable hole inside an extradimensional space created by a bag of holding, handy haversack, or similar item instantly destroys both items and opens a gate to the Astral Plane.

It seems to me to be a rather straightforward reading of the rules that the Genie's Vessel is definitely a "similar item" - both items create extradimensional spaces inside of small containers. Ergo, bringing your vessel inside the portable hole or vice-versa creates a gate to the Astral Plane.

However, you have stated in the question:

Assume for the purposes of this question that the Genie's Vessel is not a "similar item" for the purposes of the portable hole's destruction clause

My answer to that related question accounts for this:

That said, it wouldn’t be a terrible thing to permit this interaction without the usual consequences, as long as you are prepared as a DM to deal with the shenanigans that might follow.

You have found one such shenanigan. Since your DM has made the ruling that allows for this question to exist at all, it is entirely up to them to manage the shenanigans that result. The trouble here is that it seems you have found a loophole that diminishes one of the limitations on the Bottled Respite feature.

When we find things like this, it should cause us to question the path that got us here. In this case, we know how we got here – we allowed items to interact in a manner contrary to their rules, which is okay. Discuss this with the DM so you can come to an agreeable ruling together.

Keep in mind, the portable hole can only be inhabited for up to 10 minutes at a time, and it is likely that the DM will not allow you to just leave and reenter to reset that timer – another thing to talk to them about.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I have edited the question to make clear that I'm interested in scenarios where they are not considered similar items. \$\endgroup\$
    – Cellheim
    Feb 16, 2022 at 19:48
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Cellheim My answer is still the same, but I think I can reframe it to match the question frame better. \$\endgroup\$ Feb 16, 2022 at 19:49
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    \$\begingroup\$ It's not RAW that it isn't a similar item either, so whichever way you rule, you're in the world of rulings. \$\endgroup\$ Feb 16, 2022 at 21:42
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Cellheim the bag of holding's description says "an extradimensional space created by [...] a similar item", which, absent any further stipulations or specific game keywords, means that a "similar item" is any item that creates an extradimensional space. Your Genie's Vessel is an item, and it creates an extradimensional space. By that metric, it is a similar item to the bag of holding, and should cause the destruction-and-hole-to-the-Astral-Plane effect. \$\endgroup\$ Feb 17, 2022 at 14:56
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    \$\begingroup\$ Or to put it another way, “what ever could similar item mean here if it isn’t ‘container that opens up to an extra dimensional space’”? \$\endgroup\$ Feb 24, 2022 at 1:54

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