I am trying to create a dual wielding Kobold Bushwhacker Gunslinger, and trying to find some way to feint for all that juicy sneak attack damage.

The following is assuming the following feats and traits: Two Weapon Feint, Improved Two Weapon Feint, Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Quick Draw, Prehensile Tail

So, to that end, I am wondering if I can abuse some free actions like so: start by wielding a melee weapon in main hand, a pepperbox pistol in off hand, and a not hidden pistol in a holster or somewhere equally accessible. Then, using the Improved Two Weapon Feint feat, trade the melee main hand attack for a feint, drop the melee weapon as free action, use Quick Draw and the Prehensile tail to draw a pistol as a free action, swap from tail to main hand as free action, and continue the full attack making pistol attacks?

I got the idea from here


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No, at least you're not going to get that ability from Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Feint, or any of the other feats you've listed.

Improved Two Weapon Feint opens:

While using Two-Weapon Fighting to make melee attacks...

Emphasis mine, but it's clear that you must be using a melee weapon, and that you must be in range to make melee attacks with it. You might be able to cheese some range with a whip or some other reach weapon, but RAW does suggest that you're attacking with the melee weapons you're feinting with.

One of the answers on the thread you linked in your question list a couple feats that explicitly allow for feints at range, which again implies you can't do that with the normal feint ability.

could I swap my mainhand melee for a ranged weapon, and still get the benefit? Or do I need to *keep the melee weapon?

Unless you gain it through some other feat that explicitly allows it, you cannot exploit the bonus from a feint with a range weapon. Let's look back to the actual feint ability:

If successful, the next melee attack you make against the target does not allow him to use his Dexterity bonus to AC (if any).

Improved Feint lets you feint as a move action. Two Weapon Feint lets you replace your first attack with a feint "while using Two-Weapon Fighting to make melee attacks", that is the rest of the attacks you make that round must be melee attacks.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Then why would it work for the person who used Sword and Pistol feat, as I linked at the end? \$\endgroup\$
    – Pethrax
    Commented Jul 19, 2022 at 17:50
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Pethrax the top answer says that it wouldn't; the next one down says that it would. I guess you can take your pick... the way I read the feint feats you still need to be in range with your melee weapon that's making the feint though. \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael
    Commented Jul 19, 2022 at 17:53
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Pethrax there are some options for feats that do allow ranged feints in that thread; it might be helpful to know what you're looking for that those don't do. \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael
    Commented Jul 19, 2022 at 17:57
  • \$\begingroup\$ My intention is stated at the beginning of the question, I want to sneak attack using a kobold bushwhacker gunslinger while dualwielding. The ranged feint feats I could find are only for one additional attack, not a full attack. Also, with the proposition above, I accept that I would need to stay in melee, can't move in between attacks obviously \$\endgroup\$
    – Pethrax
    Commented Jul 19, 2022 at 18:00
  • \$\begingroup\$ I mean, if you're within range to make an attack with the melee weapon you're holding you can feint with it. As long as your DM allows that bonus to extend to your ranged weapons (which is fuzzy RAW) there shouldn't be an issue. Off the top of my head I'd choose a whip but there might be something better. \$\endgroup\$
    – Michael
    Commented Jul 19, 2022 at 18:04

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