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Some things, like weapon critical effects, reference your class DC, but most casters do not list a class DC progression.

It would however be interesting for example for a Magus using Arcane Fists, as a critical hit with a brawling weapon calls for Fort save against your class DC to avoid slowed 1.

Instinctively we have been using the spell DC, because for most classes that have bot (Champions for example) these move together, but recently we discovered that it is against the rules.

The only rule I could find states that everyone has it, but does it increase for a Magus?

(Magus is just an example, a Psion could also be using an ancestral weapon with the 5th level feat or an Owlbear Claw)

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    \$\begingroup\$ Essentially, I am looking for a rule that says spell DC is your class DC if you do not have one specifically \$\endgroup\$
    – András
    Mar 21 at 11:47
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    \$\begingroup\$ Can you clarify how the rule you cite means that everyone ist trained in their class DC? \$\endgroup\$
    – Patta
    Mar 21 at 13:44
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Patta, link edited \$\endgroup\$
    – András
    Mar 21 at 14:30
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    \$\begingroup\$ I still don't see where that says anything about your proficiency, tbh. \$\endgroup\$
    – Patta
    Mar 21 at 15:31
  • \$\begingroup\$ You are right, it was mainly wishful thinking. Still, it seems it is what the designers meant \$\endgroup\$
    – András
    Mar 21 at 17:30

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Most casters are Untrained in Class DC

Class DC and Spell DC are separate, there is no general rule equating them or making them interchangeable. Certain feats and features specify the greater of the two, like Kobold Breath. Some classes are trained in both, like Champion, and sometimes Monk and Ranger. If the class description does not specify proficiency in Class DC, then it is Untrained.

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    – András
    Nov 11 at 13:38

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