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Have a Large character, with the Giant Blood racial trait, and want to use alter self to transform into a Huge Giant (or a huge Humanoid, I guess, but that seems unlikely to exist without templates). What's the Huge Giant with the lowest HD? Are there even any with 5 or less, or will I have to wait for polymorph?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ What kind of character is it exactly? A humanoid with a template? \$\endgroup\$
    – Peregrin
    Dec 15, 2023 at 12:09
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Peregrin Using the Savage Species version of Half-Ogre base race, which is of Humanoid type but also counts as a Giant for magical effects. Dragon Magazine also has a template version of Half-Ogre that works exactly the same, though I'm not using it for this character. Note that Half-Ogre was updated to 3.5 in Races of Destiny, which changed their type to Giant and doubled their LA; I'm closing my eyes and pretending that doesn't exist for this build. \$\endgroup\$
    – Elliot
    Dec 15, 2023 at 19:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks for giving this extra information. But where does ist say that the Savage Species Half-Ogre is of humanoid type? As far as I can see, it is is simply a giant type creature. \$\endgroup\$
    – Peregrin
    Dec 15, 2023 at 23:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ Doesn't explicitly list their type at all, but since they're half-ogre and half-human and probably aren't Giant type (otherwise why have the Giant Blood racial trait?), I think it's a very safe assumption that they are Humanoids. \$\endgroup\$
    – Elliot
    Dec 16, 2023 at 2:12
  • \$\begingroup\$ Oh my gods no you're right, it lists their type as Giant in the table at the start of that section. Well, that sucks for me. \$\endgroup\$
    – Elliot
    Dec 16, 2023 at 2:16

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Phaerlin Giant, 8 HD

The Phaerlin Giant is a breed of giant descended from stone giants and found in the Underdark. It appears in Monsters of Faerûn.

It is a CR 3 Huge Giant, and has 8 HD. I dont think there is one with 5 or less HD.

Alter Self will not work, as it maxes out at 5HD, and even though it works on you with a Giant race template, it does not work on a target form with a template. Otherwise, you apparently could turn into a 5 HD Huge Half-Scrag Giant Gar. Neither will enlarge person work as that doesn't work on giants, but you could use the psionic power expansion (Thanks to @HeyICanChan for these additional points).

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Blunderbore Mauler (8 HD)

Jointly at 8 HD with the phaerlin giant is the Mauler, a sub-type of Blunderbore from the Diablo II crossover sourcebook To Hell and Back (2001).

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    \$\begingroup\$ Oh wow that is a deep cut. Very nice. \$\endgroup\$
    – KRyan
    Dec 15, 2023 at 7:30

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