After answering this question, another one occurred to me.

Let's say I have a dozen Wands of Shield in my inventory. Here's the text for Shield, from the Player's Handbook, pg 161:

Shield              Wizard Utility 2
Encounter, Arcane, Force
Immediate Interrupt        Personal
You are hit by an attack
Effect: You gain a +4 power bonus to AC and Reflex defense until the end of your next turn.

Let's say I use one to make an attack miss me on the first round of battle. Can I use another one in a later round?

If so, then with enough money an Arcane user could effectively give themself a constant +4 power bonus to AC and Reflex via items.

Bonus Question

I also considered whether you could use more than one of these wands against the same triggering attack, but they give a power bonus, and multiple power bonuses to AC and Reflex won't stack. Let's say, hypothetically, that Shield gives an untyped bonus. Could you use one wand, and then another if the attack still missed?

  • \$\begingroup\$ Also, you only get one immediate action per round \$\endgroup\$
    – wax eagle
    Commented Jul 7, 2014 at 23:02
  • \$\begingroup\$ @waxeagle So that would take care of the bonus question then. \$\endgroup\$
    – DCShannon
    Commented Jul 8, 2014 at 0:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm honestly a little surprised to see this get no errata treatment. \$\endgroup\$
    – wax eagle
    Commented Jul 8, 2014 at 1:57

2 Answers 2


Ok, let's start with the what here.

If you want to make a wizard encounter into a wand, great. The one you're looking at is a L8 magic wand. That's a +2 wand, great from L4 up through oh say about L10 or so. But there's a problem, there's not really any information as to how this works exactly. The only way I know of for a PC to craft a magic item is via the Enchant Magic Items ritual. This requires that the caster of the ritual be L8 and it costs as much as a L8 magic item (the wands can be updated from there, but that doesn't serve our purpose much).

Since they have errata'd the magic item daily powers, there is nothing stopping you from using several of them per day. There is no corresponding errata preventing you from creating magic items of unknown rarity, so stuffing a wizard encounter into a dozen wands seems legitimately possible provided you have the cash. In theory, you can indeed create an unlimited number of these wands (provided you have enough money). However, that's not really all that useful.

Here's why:

  • You have to be a wizard or wizard MC with at least one wizard power swap feat (though wording indicates simply an arcane MC may be enough, so perhaps Bard, but you still need access to the power to do the creation, so you'll need a wizard friend perhaps at least). At this point, you might as well just take a power swap feat to get Shield itself. It's an encounter, which is probably how often you'd bother using it.
  • It's expensive and doesn't scale without more investment. A L8 implement isn't cheap (specially not for a L8 character, it gets cheaper as you level, but if you want to use these as implements it stays expensive and you have to keep upgrading it). Keep in mind that the power doesn't scale at all, just the enhancement bonus.
  • You have better things to spend your immediate reaction on. To be honest, Shield is a great spell at L2, it can be a nice get out of a single hit power for your whole career, but by the time you're high enough level to pull this off, you should have things that actually let you do damage with your immediate action every round. If you're a wizard, the odds of you getting attacked often enough to make this strategy worth it are nearly nil. If you're a melee character, well, most of those classes thrive on out of turn attacks, this would be a waste of resources both monetarily and action economy-wise.

So yes, nothing stops you from doing this. But I don't really see the point.


No, you only get 1 immediate action per round so even if you have 12 wands of Shield and could hot swap them, you could only use 1/round.


As far as I know there are no stipulations on using multiple magic items that are the same but I do believe there is a limit of using daily item powers 1/day at heroic, 2/day at paragon, and 3/day at epic. If it is an encounter item power than it can be used once per encounter and if you had two of the same wand with encounter powers you could use both in the same encounter.

If the bonus is untyped then it would stack

  • \$\begingroup\$ The limitations on using magic item daily powers have been removed (UpdatePH, pg 40). \$\endgroup\$
    – DCShannon
    Commented Jul 7, 2014 at 22:06
  • \$\begingroup\$ Well there you go, my gaming group modified 4th and 3rd together so that we could all play the way we wanted so I wasnt aware they put out an errata for it :) with that limitation removed then I would say as long as you have the money and your DM doesnt mind you are good to go \$\endgroup\$
    – Animar
    Commented Jul 7, 2014 at 22:13
  • \$\begingroup\$ @dom keep in mind that if you remove the magic item daily power restrictions, it should be replaced with the item rarity rules. \$\endgroup\$
    – wax eagle
    Commented Jul 7, 2014 at 23:02

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