All forms of rend, that I have seen, state that rend is additional damage. How is this additional damage applied? Is the "additional" damage added to the damage of the triggering attack, both attacks or is it separate damage as though it is a separate attack all together?

The relevancy of this question comes in to account in how it reacts with DR. By the description of the ability the two attacks combine to tear the flesh essentially making it one massive wound. I doubt both attacks and the rend damage combine for one solid hit, however that is how the wording makes it sound to me.

As always any material references via copy and past, links or sections/page numbers are preferred and appreciated in supporting your answers.

In Addition for purposes of Power Attack would rend qualify as melee damage and grant additional damage?


James Jacobs says it adds to the damage of the triggering attack (typically, the second claw that hits, though it varies by monster), which is also how the Two-Weapon Rend feat works, meaning that it does not apply DR again nor Power Attack again (nor Sneak Attack or on-hit effects like flaming), because it's just bonus damage on the attack.

  • \$\begingroup\$ I tried following the thread in the link - seems like James Jacobs says that the DR is applied to the rend additional damage - see here \$\endgroup\$ – G0BLiN Sep 18 '14 at 1:14
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    \$\begingroup\$ It adds damage to the triggering attack, so if the triggering attack is entirely absorbed by the DR, the remaining DR will apply to the rend, if you want to think of it that way. Basically the damage calculation becomes (claw damage [with bonuses from STR and Power Attack]+ rend damage [with bonus from STR]) - DR = final damage. He does wish-wash a bit in that thread though. paizo.com/threads/rzs2kc7z&page=2?Rend-Power-Attack#52 \$\endgroup\$ – gatherer818 Sep 18 '14 at 1:30
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    \$\begingroup\$ So the full calculation (hiding other damage modifiers for readability) is: (first claw damage - DR) + (second claw damage + rend damage - DR) - right? \$\endgroup\$ – G0BLiN Sep 18 '14 at 1:41
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yes, that's both how I read Mr. Jacob's answers and how I believe it works by RAW. \$\endgroup\$ – gatherer818 Sep 18 '14 at 2:00

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