# Improved Familiar + Valet archetype?

## Deliver Aid (Ex)

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This ability replaces speak with animals of its kind.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/familiar/familiar-archetypes/valet-familiar-archetype

[I]mproved familiars do not gain the ability to speak with other creatures of their kind [...].

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/improved-familiar

Can an Improved Familiar take the Valet archetype?

The Valet archetype is not the only one that replaces that ability, so this question applies to more than just that archetype.

## The designer did not intend for familiar archetypes to be applied to improved familiars

While I agree that it kind of sucks, Familiar Folio author Mark Seifter confirms as much in this Paizo messageboard thread. He says, in response to another poster, that

Another Poster:
The writer of the book... also confirmed that the improved familiars should be usable with the archetypes.

Seifter:
As the freelancer in question, I can assure that I did not confirm that improved familiars should be usable with the archetypes.

There are, nonetheless, probably ways to get the archetypes on an improved familiar anyway; Pathfinder is pretty vast, after all. But such ways aren't intentional.

• The valet archetype was printed in Animal Archive before it was printed in Familiar Folio, and as far as I can tell, Seifter was not involved in this one. Also, all Seifter says in your quote is that he did not state that it was compatible. – MrLemon Aug 26 '15 at 11:39
• @MrLemon I'm almost certain later printings of identically named items supersede earlier printings (otherwise the game's an even bigger mess). And while Seifter might not be responsible for the first version of the archetype, he appears to be assuming responsibility for familiar archetypes now. By the way, I'm totally cool with an alternative answer that posits The designer states that it's possible by not confirming that the archetypes should not be applied to improved familiars ... or something. That might be a fun (if challenging) read. :-) – Hey I Can Chan Aug 26 '15 at 11:53