# What's with this tier stuff, and how does that translate to levels?

I've seen a few questions mentioning things like "paragon tier" or "epic tier". What are tiers? What game(s) are they used in ? How do they translate to D&D 3.5/Pathfinder Levels?

• Note that there is also a somewhat different 3.x-specific "tier" nomenclature. It refers to relative class balance, and reads something like "The wizard is a tier 1 class." (brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=5293) Apr 18, 2011 at 19:20
• And for extra fun, 5e also uses the "tier" nomenclature to group character levels, but in a different way! Sep 20, 2017 at 21:14

## 5 Answers

The tier system was introduced in , and is a more formal development of ideas from earlier editions.

1. Heroic tier: Levels 1-10.

• Characters may have impressive skills, but operate on a basically human level.

• Adventures take place in local environments - dungeons, towns, forests.

• Threats are mostly part of the local ecology, or summoned or created. (Natural creatures, other sapient species, created mechanisms, plants.)

2. Paragon tier: Levels 11-20

• Characters now have extreme, near-superhuman levels of their lead skills. They can accomplish things no ordinary human could (and make very difficult skill DC rolls!)

• Adventures take place in a wider arena. They may save entire kingdoms, not just local villages. Their growing reputations will make them major players, even if birth and rank don't. They might lead guilds, be involved in court politics, or command soldiers.

• Enemies also exist on a larger scale. Extraplanar threats become more common, and less likely to have to be summoned first. Players may meet dragons, invading warlords (and their armies), elemental or demonic creatures, colossal magical beasts.

• Characters gain powers from a 'paragon class' - a development of the 'prestige class' idea from D&D 3e. The paragon class gives tightly-focused powers related to a specific concept of how to play the character's main class. (For example: A druid who specialises in driving animals berserk. A warlock who steals life from opponents. A barbarian who becomes more and more like a bear.)

3. Epic tier: Levels 21-30

• Characters can accomplish awesome and impossible things with skills alone, before they even bother to use their class powers. Which are increasingly powerful.

• Adventures are routinely extra-planar - if the characters even make their homes on their original world any more - and threats are ancient dragons, powerful planar entities, titans, or the like. Entire worlds or areas of existence may be at stake.

• Each character progresses towards an 'epic destiny' - chosen by the player at L21. They gradually gain extra powers appropriate to this destined ending. (For example: becoming a god, or a transcendent energy-entity, or a heroic legend, or an immortal traveller.)

This effectively gives the GM 10 levels notice to plan the character's heroic final fate at level 30, which is where D&D 4e ends.

(The system has developed from a concept present even in very early versions of D&D, that a high-level character would eventually become immortal. The BECMI D&D is the first version with this idea, providing for immortality after level 36. Later editions had the concept of 'Epic levels', beginning at level 21. This progression tended to be slower than at levels 1-20, but to allow otherwise impossible feats, and continue to immortality. In D&D 3rd edition, Epic levels were 21-40, and Deities and Demigods provided limited rules support for becoming gods at levels 41-60.)

Generally, the heroic tier is dealing with threats native to the campaign world, Paragon tier is dealing with extraplanar threats, and epic are some other plane's extraplanar threats... but that's a gross simplification.

### D&D 4 Tiers:

Levels  1-10 = Heroic
Levels 11-20 = Paragon
Levels 21-30 = Epic


### The D&D 3 tiers defined in rules

Levels  1-20 = (not labeled - PH level)
Levels 21-40 = Epic
Levels 41-60 ≅ Demigod


### D&D 3 tiers as used before 4E

Levels  1-5  = low level  (≅ 4E Heroic)
Levels  6-10 = mid level  (≅ 4E Heroic)
Levels 11-20 = high level (≅ 4E Paragon)
Levels 21-40 = Epic level (≅ 4E Epic)
Levels 41-50 = Demigods    \
Levels 46-55 = minor gods   \ See 3E Deities & Demigods
Levels 50-60 = major gods   /


This breakdown is based strongly in the BXCMI tiers.

### The BXCMI Tiers, just for completeness & comparison:

Levels  1-5  = Basic
Levels  4-12 = Expert
Levels  9-25 = Companion
Levels 20-36 = Master
Levels i1-i36 = Immortal - essentially levels 37-72


In Basic levels, characters dungeon crawl. While written modules are levels 1-3, the basic sets all include levels 1-5, and basic modules are often not too easy for level 4 and 5 parties.
In Expert levels, characters travel overland to reach dungeons. They may begin to become political.
in Companion levels, characters establish dominions and become rulers, and begin to travel the multiverse.
In Master levels, characters routinely travel between planes, and begin to quest for immortality. In Immortal levels, characters are essentially demi-gods... and can rise to being major movers and shakers of the multiverse. The Later Wrath of the Immortals rules change the mechanics, but not the general tiers. There are 6 subtiers in either version, each 6 levels wide, but those subtiers were not made use of on the adventures, unlike the B/X/CM/M tiers (which had separate module lines). Many would argue the term "demigod" for levels i24-i36; they are capable of quite interesting feats of universe alteration.

### ANd, just for completeness 5E tiers

 1-4   Tier I    Local heroes
5-10  Tier II   Regional heroes
11-16  Tier III  Notable amongst heroes, starting interplanar
17-20  Tier IV   Paragons of their archetypes
Epic   (Tier V)  Epic. (note that levels stop at 20)


Noting that the tiers are named by numeration, rather than labels in the PHB and in the D&D Adventurer's League materials, the descriptives are drawn from page 15 of the PHB. Epic is in the DMG. It's explicit that level never exceeds 20, but at 20th level, one starts saving up XP for Epic Boons. Epic Tier or Tier V (it is not explicitly called such) would be characters possessing one or more Epic Boons. Again, this corresponds nicely to BXCMI...

The tier system is explicitly used in D&D 4e, but can be applied to most D20 games.

The three tiers of 4e are:

• Heroic: lvl 1 - 10
• Paragon: lvl 11 - 20
• Epic: lvl 21 - 30

If applied to D&D 3.x it would effectively be

• Heroic: lvl 1 - 10
• Paragon: lvl 11 - 20
• Epic: lvl 21+ (Epic Level Handbook)

However, epic tier in 3.x is far more different from paragon than in 4e. The rules don't apply perfectly to any system other than 4e (and its derivatives).

• No one playing 3e uses the "tier" nomenclature, it is new and unique to 4e. You could certainly port the concept but that's not really done. 3e had the idea of "epic levels" after level 20, but not heroic/paragon or "tiers". Apr 18, 2011 at 17:18

The D&D3.5 variant E6 gives a 4E-style tier classification for 3.5. Roughly, it's:

• 1-5: Gritty Fantasy
• 6-10: Heroic Fantasy
• 11-15: Wuxia
• 16-20: Superheroes
• 20+: Epic

Hunter, The Vigil (nWod) also uses tiers, however it is not related to levels. In this game it represents the scale of conflict that the players can expect to deal with and the resources they'll have to address those.

Characters affiliations are categorized into 3 tiers:

• First-tier Characters (individuals who for various reasons do not affiliate with any organization other than their Cell)
• Second-tier Characters (individuals who belong to Compacts, small and loosely connected organizations)
• Third-tier Characters (individuals who belong to Conspiracies, large global groups that command greater power and resources)

D&D tiers have similar aspects, or course, though it assumes characters will progress through them. HtV characters might spend their whole careers clearing their neighborhoods "block by bloody block."

• @purplemonkey Thank you for the fix, I'm still getting a hang of this. Feb 24, 2016 at 3:06