I am planning a summer campaign. I have a player with whom I have played some 5e recently, but who currently plays Pathfinder and has played Shadowrun in the past.

One of the characters he has played in Pathfinder is a draconic bloodrager. He likes the character concept and wants to implement something similar in 5e and is looking for some guidance.

I am not a Pathfinder player, but I have looked at the Pathfinder SRD and I am not seeing that there is a 5E equivalent to the PF draconic bloodrager.

The draconic bloodrager seems something like a 5th Edition multi-classed berserker/eldritch knight/draconic sorceror, only a barbarian can't cast spells while raging, which seems contrary to the PF bloodrager.

Can anyone provide me with some guidance to pass on to this player?

  • \$\begingroup\$ Are you open to homebrew solutions? (I don't have any, but I imagine a barbarian archetype might work for this.) \$\endgroup\$
    – MrLemon
    Commented Apr 9, 2016 at 8:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm open to homebrew. I might suggest to the player that if he really wants to invest in this idea that he might think about suggesting a homebrew. But my concern is that the draconic bloodrager seems to combine a set of things that weren't intended to go together in 5e. A berzerker casting magic, an eldritch knight raging, or a tank draconic sorceror all seem a bit contradictory. Also, in a general sense I am trying to keep the campaign fairly close to RAW and I have some concern that allowing one player to homebrew a special class will cause a disturbance in the force. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jack
    Commented Apr 9, 2016 at 10:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Jack I have some concern that allowing one player to homebrew a special class will cause a disturbance in the force Have you discussed with this player the idea of simply playing what's in 5e? (As an RP player I usually see a red flag for players who play the same thing ... stuck in a rut, as it were. It broadens the experience to try a variety of classes and challenges ... but some people need to be nudged that way to have the light go on). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 9, 2016 at 13:19
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    \$\begingroup\$ @KorvinStarmast That is a good point. The player basically said, can 5e do this? and I was stumped a bit. It's possible the answer is maybe it can, but try playing something else. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jack
    Commented Apr 9, 2016 at 13:50

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5e Actually currently cannot do this, for the reasons mentioned in @Jack's answer, rules as written.

There are options though:

  • A class feature can be modified on a rare or higher rarity magic item.
  • The player can multiclass into Barbarian from Eldrich Knight and have to make choices between raging and casting
  • Ask the other players at the table if they're comfortable with this change being made, and if they're all in agreement proceed with caution.
  • Say no.

All of these are valid options, but I reccommend the first. Rare items generally take a pretty serious quest to obtain, and that could be a lot of fun for the entire party, if it aligns with their goals. Heck, put it on a Battleaxe. Make his day.


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