Unbound Fate is a level four attainment on page 195 of Mage the awakening 2nd edition that says:

The mage can reflexively repel deleterious magic that will or could harm her fate. She can resist falling under the sway of a geas , for example, or shrug off psychic control.

The mention of non-fate magic made me think that they could prevent their past or future being tampered with.

Is this within the scope of the attainment? Or is such indirect tampering not relevant?


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The attainment lists three specific circumstances where the Attainment can be used: geas, supernatural compulsion, and supernatural changes to "destiny." Now, Destiny is a Merit, and it's described on page 100; I'd say that if the mage in question has the Destiny merit, it would be fine to use Unbound Fate to try and stymie any attempts to mess with that, using Time or otherwise. Likewise, if a destiny has been "forged" with Fate ••••• magic, that would also count.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Do you need the destiny merit for it to take effect though? \$\endgroup\$ May 26, 2016 at 17:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Pureferret No, but you do need to have a destiny, and that's one of the easiest ways to get one. "Forge Destiny" is another. You can negotiate with your Storyteller whether you do, I suppose. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jadasc
    May 26, 2016 at 17:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ I thought the point was you were so in tune with Fate you don't need an explicit fate (lowercase). Eg. You can say "I'm matter if fate, and in not dated to do X!" and prevent it \$\endgroup\$ May 26, 2016 at 18:36
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Pureferret That's not the read I get—what I see is, "I'm so in tune with Fate that I can tell exactly when I'm being lured off course." \$\endgroup\$
    – Jadasc
    May 26, 2016 at 19:15
  • \$\begingroup\$ is that not the same thing? \$\endgroup\$ May 26, 2016 at 20:05

[Disclaimer] I do not own the new Mage.

I would say that the Attainment would only prevent the tampering if the change made to the past/future timeline would itself alter Fate. It's also important to note that not everything in a life is Fate. No one is Fated to drink orange juice for breakfast the morning of June 2nd, 2021. If they are, that orange juice will be a life changing experience and not just another tasty breakfast beverage.

If a Mage is Fated to kill his father (a noted Nephandus), then attempts to travel to the past to kill the man would be thwarted. Likewise if the Mage was Fated to save a life or achieve enlightenment at a location- attempts to kill that person or ensure the location was never built would fail.

However, changes that do not directly impact Fate are fair game. The Mage's mother could be killed in the past, for instance, or the person could be manipulated to not WANT to be saved by the Mage.

I would say that suitably indirect measures could be employed via Time Manipulation as well. If the timeline were altered so that the Nephandus showed up with 10 backup goons, the fight would be harder, yes, but it would not necessarily be "tampering" with Fate.

This would also allow Fate / Destiny to 'spring back' in unexpected and fun ways. If the Nephandus gets goons, then the Mage ends up with assistants of his own- possibly making the battle far more epic and even easier for the Mage than it would have been before the tampering!


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